Gnutella Forums  

Go Back   Gnutella Forums > Current Gnutella Client Forums > FrostWire
Register FAQ The Twelve Commandments Members List Calendar Arcade Find the Best VPN Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

FrostWire General forum section for FrostWire users; Download "FrostWire Clean version 4" . FrostWire v.5 which only uses bittorrents and no longer uses Gnutella Network is not supported on these forums.


Welcome To Gnutella Forums

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, fun aspects such as the image caption contest and play in the arcade, and access many other special features after your registration and email confirmation. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! (click here) (Note: we use Yandex mail server so make sure yandex is not on your email filter or blocklist.)

If you have any problems with the Gnutella Forum registration process or your Gnutella Forum account login, please contact us (this is not for program use questions.) Your email address must be legitimate and verified before becoming a full member of the forums. Please be sure to disable any spam filters you may have for our website, so that email messages can reach you.
Note: Any other issue with registration, etc., send a Personal Message (PM) to one of the active Administrators: Lord of the Rings or Birdy.

Once registered but before posting, members MUST READ the FORUM RULES (click here) and members should include System details - help us to help you (click on blue link) in their posts if their problem relates to using the program. Whilst forum helpers are happy to help where they can, without these system details your post might be ignored. And wise to read How to create a New Thread

Thank you

If you are a Spammer click here.
This is not a business advertising forum, all member profiles with business advertising will be banned, all their posts removed. Spamming is illegal in many countries of the world. Guests and search engines cannot view member profiles.



           Deutsch?              Español?                  Français?                   Nederlands?
   Hilfe in Deutsch,   Ayuda en español,   Aide en français et LimeWire en françaisHulp in het Nederlands

Forum Rules

Support Forums

Before you post to one of the specific Client Help and Support Conferences in Gnutella Client Forums please look through other threads and Stickies that may answer your questions. Most problems are not new. The Search function is most useful. Also the red Stickies have answers to the most commonly asked questions. (over 90 percent).
If your problem is not resolved by a search of the forums, please take the next step and post in the appropriate forum. There are many members who will be glad to help.
If you are new to the world of file sharing please do not be shy! Everyone was ‘new’ when they first started.

When posting, please include details for:
Your Operating System ....... Your version of your Gnutella Client (* this is important for helping solve problems) ....... Your Internet connection (56K, Cable, DSL) ....... The exact error message, if one pops up
Any other relevant information that you think may help ....... Try to make your post descriptive, specific, and clear so members can quickly and efficiently help you. To aid helpers in solving download/upload problems, LimeWire and Frostwire users must specify whether they are downloading a torrent file or a file from the Gnutella network.
Members need to supply these details >>> System details - help us to help you (click on blue link)


Moderators

There are senior members on the forums who serve as Moderators. These volunteers keep the board organized and moving.
Moderators are authorized to: (in order of increasing severity)
Move posts to the correct forums. Many times, members post in the wrong forum. These off-topic posts may impede the normal operation of the forum.
Edit posts. Moderators will edit posts that are offensive or break any of the House Rules.
Delete posts. Posts that cannot be edited to comply with the House Rules will be deleted.
Restrict members. This is one of the last punishments before a member is banned. Restrictions may include placing all new posts in a moderation queue or temporarily banning the offender.
Ban members. The most severe punishment. Three or more moderators or administrators must agree to the ban for this action to occur. Banning is reserved for very severe offenses and members who, after many warnings, fail to comply with the House Rules. Banning is permanent. Bans cannot be removed by the moderators and probably won't be removed by the administration.


The Rules

1. Warez, copyright violation, or any other illegal activity may NOT be linked or expressed in any form. Topics discussing techniques for violating these laws and messages containing locations of web sites or other servers hosting illegal content will be silently removed. Multiple offenses will result in consequences. File names are not required to discuss your issues. If filenames are copyright then do not belong on these forums & will be edited out or post removed. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

2. Spamming and excessive advertising will not be tolerated. Commercial advertising is not allowed in any form, including using in signatures.

3. There will be no excessive use of profanity in any forum.

4. There will be no racial, ethnic, or gender based insults, or any other personal attacks.

5. Pictures may be attached to posts and signatures if they are not sexually explicit or offensive. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

6. Remember to post in the correct forum. Take your time to look at other threads and see where your post will go. If your post is placed in the wrong forum it will be moved by a moderator. There are specific Gnutella Client sections for LimeWire, Phex, FrostWire, BearShare, Gnucleus, Morpheus, and many more. Please choose the correct section for your problem.

7. If you see a post in the wrong forum or in violation of the House Rules, please contact a moderator via Private Message or the "Report this post to a moderator" link at the bottom of every post. Please do not respond directly to the member - a moderator will do what is required.

8. Any impersonation of a forum member in any mode of communication is strictly prohibited and will result in banning.

9. Multiple copies of the same post will not be tolerated. Post your question, comment, or complaint only once. There is no need to express yourself more than once. Duplicate posts will be deleted with little or no warning. Keep in mind a forum censor may temporarily automatically hold up your post, if you do not see your post, do not post again, it will be dealt with by a moderator within a reasonable time. Authors of multiple copies of same post may be dealt with by moderators within their discrete judgment at the time which may result in warning or infraction points, depending on severity as adjudged by the moderators online.

10. Posts should have descriptive topics. Vague titles such as "Help!", "Why?", and the like may not get enough attention to the contents.

11. Do not divulge anyone's personal information in the forum, not even your own. This includes e-mail addresses, IP addresses, age, house address, and any other distinguishing information. Don´t use eMail addresses in your nick. Reiterating, do not post your email address in posts. This is for your own protection.

12. Signatures may be used as long as they are not offensive or sexually explicit or used for commercial advertising. Commercial weblinks cannot be used under any circumstances and will result in an immediate ban.

13. Dual accounts are not allowed. Cannot explain this more simply. Attempts to set up dual accounts will most likely result in a banning of all forum accounts.

14. Video links may only be posted after you have a tally of two forum posts. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam.

15. Failure to show that you have read the forum rules may result in forum rules breach infraction points or warnings awarded against you which may later total up to an automatic temporary or permanent ban. Supplying system details is a prerequisite in most cases, particularly with connection or installation issues.

Violation of any of these rules will bring consequences, determined on a case-by-case basis.


Thank You! Thanks for taking the time to read these forum guidelines. We hope your visit is helpful and mutually beneficial to the entire community.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old March 19th, 2006
Novicius
 
Join Date: March 15th, 2006
Posts: 4
cyphem is flying high
Angry

I'm sorry to interrupt the happy search for a new logo. This is because it's not the first and I'm slowly getting a little upset.

First, there was a contest in which many participated and good ideas and logos were contributed. Despite the fact that someone won the vote, the logo was never really used.
Some days after the contest, a different logo appeared on the page and suddenly, the contest and its outcome was just ignored.

I asked the people who are in charge of the development and they said something about that they were not that satisfied with the logo and one of the contestants who seems to be member of the team now made the new one.

Now, there seems to be the need for a new logo. Again.

And again, the efforts and time of the people who contributed in the first contest is simply ignored.

Now I ask you: Why don't you look at the ideas and logos the contestants gave you in the first place? Why are these ignored without any comment? What do you say to the people who thought that helping an upcoming project like frostwire would be a good thing?

Yes, I did participate in the first contest and my logo made it to the top five. But I don't ask these questions only for myself but for at least the other 4 top contestants and furthermore the dozen of people who made logos which made it not that far.
I ask these questions because I think what's going on at the moment is a slap in the face for the ones that wanted to help.

If you don't want any help, then *say it*! But don't let people believe that there is any chance that their effort is of any use, if in reality there ain't!
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old March 19th, 2006
et voilà's Avatar
+Modérateur à ses heures+
 
Join Date: July 26th, 2002
Location: Le Québec
Posts: 2,904
et voilà is a great assister to others; your light through the dark tunnel
Default

Cyphem, there is no "real" need for a new logo, but if one is better we'll choose it since it will be better for the project no matter what.

I'm tired of you telling that there has been a contest and that we should stick to it -- we used the winner logo. Then, there was something better, so we used it. Get over it. As much as I'm tired of Alkalinex's desire for a new logo while the website is what is need to work on, I do not see positivism on your side. This is an open source and community project, the community has to build up (and as of last news, since we are not paid, we got a have fun doing it). One way is to lure some people for art, some for programming and others for translations, support and all.

The show must go on. Someone not having fun or interest with any of his activity sphere on an OSS project should do something else. Let us have fun even if it is redundant.

So, people love art, let them express what art they see FW with and lets all have fun doing it!
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old March 20th, 2006
Lord of the Rings's Avatar
ContraBanned
 
Join Date: June 30th, 2004
Location: Middle of the ocean apparently (middle earth)
Posts: 618
Lord of the Rings has a distinguished reputationLord of the Rings has a distinguished reputationLord of the Rings has a distinguished reputation
Default

I'm glad I no longer use dial up, but it still takes me time to load up these pages. lol Nice works by the way!

How about the prize for the winner being a free copy of FrostWire. hahaha

Thanks for the explanation et voilà, I was also a little confused. I'm not surprised this could be misinterpreted. After all there were some great efforts initially & people obviously put a lot of time into them. If there really is being reconsideration for new icons, logos, etc. then perhaps it should be made aware to the greater population of FW users. But if this is simply some fun with some slight consideration ... then let the children play.
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old March 20th, 2006
ultracross's Avatar
FrostWire Developer
 
Join Date: February 7th, 2005
Posts: 815
ultracross is flying high
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by et voilà
^
l
l

LOL!
indeed

@ cyphem

If you wish to post your previous or new works, you can post it at your own leisure. We will take all art posted or sent to us into consideration. We also *GREATLY* appreciate the support, time and effort that each artist puts into his work. The reason I am wanting a new design (or designer) is that we could not contact the current artist on a regular basis. We would like to have a consistant graphics designer, but the turn-over of developers and artists are very high in the OSS world. We can't keep a design when we cant keep in touch with the artist because many things in the application are constantly changing and we constantly need new or updated graphics. (I've been updating them myself ever since we lost contact with the artist)

As et_voila previously said, we are an open source project, and we need the support of the community to move ahead. We do have an archive of graphics that have been submitted to us and if we lose contact with the designer, we look into our archive and try to find suitable graphics. If we lose contact with a designer that we pick from this thread, we will look into our archives and try to find a suitable graphic and contact the author.

At this time, we can't contact our graphics artist, so after a period of time (and email bounce messages) we have to move on. I am really hoping that it wont happen this time round.

I havent yet decided how the project will choose the artist. Maybe we could do a forum poll for the top picks? Then each top 3(?) graphic will get there 15 mins of fame and be added to each new version of frostwire... So, each new version that comes out, a new top 3(?) pick will take the place of the previous graphic. Then let the community pick which one they like most. Maybe we could do that?

Last edited by ultracross; March 20th, 2006 at 06:38 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old March 22nd, 2006
Novicius
 
Join Date: March 15th, 2006
Posts: 4
cyphem is flying high
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by et voil�
Cyphem, there is no "real" need for a new logo, but if one is better we'll choose it since it will be better for the project no matter what.
And when do you think, you are done with the search for a logo? Do you think it's good for the project if you change your face from week to week?

Quote:
I'm tired of you telling that there has been a contest and that we should stick to it -- we used the winner logo. Then, there was something better, so we used it. Get over it.
wtf?

Can you say 'ignorance'?

Quote:
As much as I'm tired of Alkalinex's desire for a new logo while the website is what is need to work on, I do not see positivism on your side.
No ****.

Could this possibly be because all my enthusiasm and work I put in the project in the first place was - by different actions - just swept away?

Quote:
The show must go on. Someone not having fun or interest with any of his activity sphere on an OSS project should do something else.
So you're stating that if ppl don't find your actions funny they should just leave. Or do you state that, even if people had fun contributing to this project, when it comes to problems they should ignore them and keep on putting energy into a project which couldn't care less?

Quote:
Let us have fun even if it is redundant.
Oh, *that's* how you see it. Let's goof around, make some graphics, ignore them, have fun, haha.
You know what? When THIS is what you think is helping an upcoming project is all about, then good night to FW. I want to enjoy working on this thing too.
But just imagine what it looks like if we switched positions. Imagine you are contributing a module which you wrote and which would in your eyes improve the whole software.
You then upload it to a CVS or something and maybe there is even a vote if it is good and then suddenly someone deletes it. You ask why but you get no answer. Some weeks later, the project leaders search for a person who is supposed to code a module just like you did.

Wouldn't you feel like: OMGWTF!?

And what would you think if then someone tells you he's tired of reading your complaints and tells you to get over it. I guess then you'd go OMGWTFBBQ! or you would just turn away and let the project go to hell.

Let me clarify two things though: I know that my example doesn't represent the exact situation I'm complaining about. But the main issue is the same. The other point is, that I certainly don't think that I do the best logos or that the project would fail without my contributions. Hell no! I even think there are better designers out there.

But my point is that just goofing around, doing something redudant, ignoring other peoples work and effort will just NOT bring the project to something the people who worked on it, could be proud of.
You want to be a substitute for limewire? Then stop ******* around with the help you get offered and integrate the ppl as best as you can.

_______________________


Quote:
Originally posted by ultracross

If you wish to post your previous or new works, you can post it at your own leisure. We will take all art posted or sent to us into consideration. We also *GREATLY* appreciate the support, time and effort that each artist puts into his work.
That's good to hear. Unfortunately this is the first time one could get the impression that at least someone cares.
Quote:
The reason I am wanting a new design (or designer) is that we could not contact the current artist on a regular basis.
This is very well understandable and not the problem. If there are problems with a logo (let it be no contact to the designer, legal issues like copyrights or whatnot) I'm the last one to complain about a logo switch.

Quote:
As et_voila previously said, we are an open source project, and we need the support of the community to move ahead.
Absolutely ACK.
The only problem is when a support from the community - like in this case - is not really accepted or taken for granted.
To me it seems like the logos and ideas offered were not good enough from your PoV. No problem with that. But you could have told the people or make an announcement or something like that where the people get the feeling that even if their work is not chosen, their efforts are at least not ignored.
You say thank you to the contributing coders, don't you? And when their stuff has to be improved, you don't ignore the work done before but try to develop it, don't you?

Quote:
I havent yet decided how the project will choose the artist. Maybe we could do a forum poll for the top picks? Then each top 3(?) graphic will get there 15 mins of fame and be added to each new version of frostwire... So, each new version that comes out, a new top 3(?) pick will take the place of the previous graphic. Then let the community pick which one they like most. Maybe we could do that?
Well, the decision of what is best should be either done by people who know how a project like FW should be represented and which have knowledge to see potential problems or opportunities in a logo and whom not decide only by aesthetics.
Or you let the community decide which can always be a problem due to eventually not participating members, hence no real representation or support for logos due to support for the people behind the logo which will not lead to the best objective solution.

What way you as the project leaders choose is up to you. But I really think that changing the logo from week to week should not be an option. If you want to create a brand you need consistency! The current actions are the exact opposite of that.
Maybe the splash could change from release to release. But the logo should not.



I'm glad though, that there are still people who understand my points.
Thanks for listening.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old March 23rd, 2006
eyeball's Avatar
Devotee
 
Join Date: March 13th, 2006
Location: Somerset, England
Posts: 27
eyeball is flying high
Default

cyphem are you a Politician! a simple answer now, and then for us simple folk please!
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old March 23rd, 2006
Lord of the Rings's Avatar
ContraBanned
 
Join Date: June 30th, 2004
Location: Middle of the ocean apparently (middle earth)
Posts: 618
Lord of the Rings has a distinguished reputationLord of the Rings has a distinguished reputationLord of the Rings has a distinguished reputation
Default

Thanks ultracross or et voilà for updating the FrostWire site about this issue. I'm guessing it was et voilà judging by the simultaneous editing of the thread.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old March 23rd, 2006
Novicius
 
Join Date: March 15th, 2006
Posts: 4
cyphem is flying high
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by eyeball
cyphem are you a Politician!
Sorry to maybe disappoint you, but I'm not :-]

Quote:
a simple answer now, and then for us simple folk please!
What answer do you want? Are there any questions I did not see?

Greetings and thanks for making this a new thread, it was not that appropriate from me to post in the logo thread.
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old March 23rd, 2006
eyeball's Avatar
Devotee
 
Join Date: March 13th, 2006
Location: Somerset, England
Posts: 27
eyeball is flying high
Default

I don't know all those and these questions have done my head in!i'm off for a nap,and take a few asprins. Toodle pip
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old March 23rd, 2006
et voilà's Avatar
+Modérateur à ses heures+
 
Join Date: July 26th, 2002
Location: Le Québec
Posts: 2,904
et voilà is a great assister to others; your light through the dark tunnel
Default

I split the thread LODR

Anyhow, I won't loose my time answering Cyphem. I explained myself well enough in my frist post.


Just FYI we talked to Cyphem on Frostwire IRC channel, email, and frostwire.com wiki before.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
New Logo ultracross FrostWire 28 March 23rd, 2006 06:24 AM
logo assassin Chat - Open Topics - The Lounge 0 March 12th, 2005 09:06 AM
Wat do u think of this logo? GifMaker Rants 8 November 9th, 2002 11:01 PM
logo Unregistered General Mac Support 1 November 24th, 2001 02:30 AM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 12:57 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

Copyright © 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.