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Old June 7th, 2001
Join Date: June 4th, 2001
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Mike Peralta is flying high
Talking ISP Blocking Gnutella? I can get around it.....

Are you all interested or what? I have the solution but I don't want to type all this **** it unless some of you respond with interest. Let me know

Also check out my post about getting gnutella to work off a proxy/firewall/home/office/network whatever.
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Old June 7th, 2001
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Hey - Of course I/We want to Know!!!!
It may come very handy one day......

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Old June 8th, 2001
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I think my ISP is blocking gnutella too!!! Can you share the information on how to work around this?
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Old June 8th, 2001
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Default Please share info re: how to get around isp blocking

I think my ISP has recently blocked gnotella please let us know how to get around this. thanks
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Old June 8th, 2001
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Lightbulb why don't u just post it?

why don't u just post it instead of being hassled by a bunch of newbies like myself, that way i don't have to bitch a moan at you and i get what i want! + you don't get bugged because this is in a forum that is popular on the internet...
-prolly never be back because i dn't care n e m0rez
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Old June 8th, 2001
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Unhappy Please tell us how to get around ISP blocking

If I can't get Gnutella to work again, I'll have to get a new ISP...
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Old June 9th, 2001
Join Date: June 4th, 2001
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Default Aaaaaaahaha

You guys kill me - especially unregistered with a little light on his head. Anyways, heres my theory as I have residing as a text file in my shared directories (which you all should do after reading this)


I thought up this little doozy while taking a ****, which is where I usually have all my ideas (Hmmmm....). It sort of relates to the concept of port mapping and the forced IP features you'd need to use in order to get gnutella to work off a proxy.

I'm assuming that you're on high-speed dsl or cable or something, and that your ISP or admin has blocked port 6346 so you can't get on the network. If you're using a dial-up the answer is really simple - go get netzero or something. The steps below are kind of specific to an office type environment, but if you on cable/dsl at home and being restricted you can do the same thing as long as you have another computer hooked up to the LAN and a phone line.

The slightly sad part of this little trick is that somehow, someway, you need to find one other computer on your LAN capable of dialing up an internet connection. The good part about that is that it needs to be only 1 computer dialing any free internet service or whatever doesn't have port 6346 blocked, and that it can be anywhere on your lan as long as you're able to connect to it via your computer on the LAN.

Step 1:

The trick is relatively simple - you're going to use the dial-up computer to be your gnutella host for searches and stuff. You basically dial-up to your free isp, use some kind of keeplive or whatever you want to stay on longer, and run gnutella on it. You can also use the gnutella reflector at clip2 or whatever that website is, if you plan on sharing this trick with more people on your lan and want to keep the network noise down to avoid the admin noticing.

Step 2:

Once a gnutella client or the reflector is running off the dial-up computer, go on over to yours and run up your own client. When it pops up set the incoming connections to disabled and the max connections to 1 just to keep it clean, then in the 'connect to' host field or whatever, enter the IP address of the other computer running gnutella on dial-up. Once you've connected to it you should be able to use the search feature and benefit from all the connections its made.

Step 3:

Once you can search all you need to do is get those direct connections going - ooops, only problem is that port 6346 is blocked - which is why you're reading this. In order to fix that its very very very simple really - go into the 'force ip' section and enter the IP address of the dsl/cable/high speed computer that you're on, and some random port thats not being blocked. Then set the option where it says something like, "port to listen for other hosts on" or just the 'listen port' for you, set it to that port. Whats its doing is telling the gnutella network, "ok even though I'm clearly browsing from that dial-up address, I want you to direct connect to me for transfers to my dsl line at this odd port"


I would suggest maybe signing on to a free account like juno, netzero, or bluelight, getting your searches done (set max searches to like 10 so you can get more done in 1 shot)... then disconnecting, signing on to cable/dsl again, and THEN, with your searches still up, use the force ip and 'listen on port' options to route your downloads outside of the port your isp has blocked. This part is just a theory so let me know if it works.


In a nutshell you're browsing with the unblocked SLOW dial-up, but when its time for the downloads and uploads everyone will come knocking on your dsl line's door...Great part is that they're knocking with a port your ISP hasn't blocked. If this is confusing try it, laugh at your admin or your isp, then figure it out later.


------ALSO!! If you benefitted from this tutorial please please remember that great things like this can only happen if people try to put back into the community. All it takes is 1 person to think up a sweet new trick or tutorial and upload it to a good website and the whole WORLD gets to benefit from it. All I did was take 30 minutes of my time to share what I've learned and all the poor people who couldn't get this to work before can now enjoy it.. So if you have a trick you can do to some program, or you figured out something that you think others will have a hard time with, open your notepad, type it up, and upload it to a related website or someone you trust to distribute it. You will feel really really good I promise you Also feel free to take this paragraph and add it in to your own tutorial, thereby spreading this message of good-will.

------One final note - A good friend of mine writes alternative music and has his own website where you can download his music, see band pictures, and see upcoming gig dates. If you're into this kind of music head on down to and listen to the stories he has to tell. Its pretty cool.

Ok I'm out - Peace!
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Old June 10th, 2001
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Thumbs down

why not just everyone use some port ... whatever you want
between 1024 and 65000 ... as example ... than nobody can
block a specified port ...
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Old June 18th, 2001
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Mike Peralta is flying high
Default Hmmmm

I thought of that before, but if I'm correct, would that divide the network? Its my understanding that all connected hosts need to have the same random ports would only seperate us. What are all your thoughts?

PS keep bumping this thread yahoo
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Old June 19th, 2001
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Default Re: Hmmmm

Originally posted by Mike Peralta
if I'm correct, would that divide the network?
Wonderful typing, please keep up the good work, but you are not correct.

Points are:

1. If you are connected to ANY other clients/hosts then your ISP isn't blocking you.
2. If you can web browse, your ISP isn't blocking you, Gnutella will work fine.
3. Everyone has a problem geting kick started on the network, gnutellahosts 6346 is too busy, your client reads old IP's first, who knows, but most times if you wait a while it will find a few recent IP's and away you go. You may want to clear your hosts list file and start from scratch, also try the limewire 6346 host list service.
4. ISP's could throttle you, then you would never know and they don't have to hear the complaints. These guys are not stupid.
5. Firewalls do not block Gnutella, see #2 above and read up on push. Push is not needed for you to download files from other clients!
6. Some idiots change to port 80 or 8080 and/or open those ports in their firewall because they have no clue.
7. This is not rocket science.

Port 6436 is for incoming connections, it is where you listen, you can set any port because you tell others that you are on that port so they can find the files you are sharing. You don't need a "public" incoming listen port to operate on the network!

Let me say this again, you don't need this listen port to download, search, or upload!

Once you connect via a "outgoing" connection YOU CREATED AND OPENED to any other host, you are able to receive and send packets, search, request push, whatever. If you download direct, you create a connection to the host server directly! It is on lower ports like 2000 or 1000 range, just like any browser does, so...


Changng your client to port 80 or 8080 is STUPID because those ports are for web SERVERS! Then you really tell your ISP you have a sever running (if they even bother scanning all the computers hooked up to the network). Hackers are scanning for these ports, don't think it's your ISP, they have better things to do like download DIVX porn via their T3.

ISP's would look for high bandwidth use on a every day basis, if they bother at all. On a 56K line, who cares?

So stop thinking it's your ISP and see if the girl next door is hooked into your phone line and if she is, make a DIVX movie of her naked in the shower and SHARE IT (just kidding).

Let's go over this again. If you CREATE a connection firewalls assume you want to do that and allow the connection because YOU CREATED IT. You could close everything via a firewall and still browse if it allows "outgoing" connections. Gnutella would work just fine! You could still be hacked if you had a program that CREATED a connection to Mr. Hacker, so don't feel so safe and get a better OS and quit using MS "we never fix security holes because we are too busy taking your hard earned $$" products like Outlook.

If you can web browse Gnutella WILL WORK!

Port 80 or 8080 are SERVER PORTS! Servers LISTEN on them for HTTP requests. Your browser DOESN'T USE PORT 80 ! YOU ARN'T RUNNING A WEB SERVER!

Please feel free to post this any time someone asks about this.
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