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Old July 14th, 2001
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Default DOS Gnutella Client!!!

I think it would be cool to see a DOS Gnutella client.

email your suggestions here.
http://www.gnutella.*******space.com
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Old July 16th, 2001
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Default Four words...

No Way In Hell.

As a programmer, I'll give my less-than-humble opinion that such a program would be unbelievably difficult to write, and as such, not worth it.

It would be difficult because some of the things that all modern operating systems provide for us (that we take for granted) are not supported in DOS. Like:

Memory management- getting at the memory above 640k is a pain, and this app would need several megs to manage its data. Not impossible to deal with, but...

"Sockets" - a socket is the connection your computer opens to UL/DL a file or some information. Modern OSes handle connecting with the other computer, send/recv, error control, closing the connection, etc... These would all have to be implemented by hand (compliant with the standard for BSD sockets)...
An effort of Tantalus... but if I HAD to do it, I would copy the Sockets implementation from Linux!! The whole thing, just cut and paste

Anyway... not worth it... But as long as a program runs on Win, Mac, and Linux, it's all good, right??
That's the trend with clients being written in Java (LimeWire), so they don't have to be rewritten across platforms...
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Old July 16th, 2001
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Install Linux, do not use the nice windows like KDE, log in with a command line shell, that's DOSsy enough for you isn't it?
Now go get Gnut using the Lynx browser or via FTP and you will be a happy command line camper.
Type, type, type, clicky, clickity, click!
DAMN THAT MOUSE THINGY I NEVER FIGURED IT OUT!
WTF?
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Old July 17th, 2001
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How many people out there still use only DOS? For some reason I don't think it is a lot of people. Win, Mac, and Linux clients seem good enough for me.
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Old July 17th, 2001
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[How many people out there still use only DOS? For some reason I don't think it is a lot of people. ...]

Hallo:

True, there are for sure not many people using only DOS. But it is good on a second computer sometimes... You could use older PCs with DOS for smaller things like fax relay, answering machine, mailboxes etc, especially when they need to run all the time (less energy consuming). Even a 486/25 will perform well enough as a fileserver under Dos+Novell/386 in a small network, to have another example. So, if anyone writes a DOS gnutella client, odds are not bad I would give it a try.

But to write one by myself? Working with DOS memory extenders, real/protected switching, crappy libraries, ugly compilers etc. is very ****ty, though, so I nearly agree to Hydrophonic when he says it would be too much labour.
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Default Re: DOS Gnutella Client!!!

Quote:
Originally posted by CyberBug84
I think it would be cool to see a DOS Gnutella client.

email your suggestions here.
http://www.gnutella.*******space.com
Even if there was a DOS Gnutella client, are there any DOS media players to play the media files that you'd download with it?
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Old July 17th, 2001
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Default YES THERE ARE

DOS Amp (D.A.M.P.)
QuickView Pro (My Favorite) it plays MP1,MP2,MP3,MPG,WAV and and it works for me.
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Old July 18th, 2001
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Default Re: YES THERE ARE

[DOS Amp (D.A.M.P.)
QuickView Pro (My Favorite) it plays MP1,MP2,MP3,MPG,WAV and and it works for me. :)]

There are even some DOS encoders (blade encode, eg) that will do fine.
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Old July 18th, 2001
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Default then i say its worth it lets do it

i call him ""GnutDos""
an ALL DOS Gnutella Client. (-:

MAKE IT HAPPEN OPEN SOURCE DEVELOPERS, GROUP TOGHER.
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Old July 18th, 2001
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Default As a growing developer...

I can only say that

Devoting the time and resources to writing a client that would see little use would destract us from the more critical goal of developing the next generation of P2P protocol before the Napster case wraps up... Time is of the essence...
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