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ursula March 30th, 2005 08:55 AM

Again...

Again and again, it must be stated...

LimeWire has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with the content of files shared within the Gnutella Network...
Neither does BearShare or Morpheus or ANY other Gnutella Network-based p2p 'client'.

Any comment(s) re: 'undesirable' material that may be distributed within the Gnutella Network will be absolutely incorrect if any specific client is named and/or 'accused'.

P. Johnson April 27th, 2005 02:27 PM

'undesirable' material
 
I need to know whether or not using either Limewire or the Gnutella servers = can people put images/music on my server, or can they only download what I have on there?

In other words, is Limewire and Gnutella only for bandwidth and sharing, or are people actually going to start storing images and files on my computer? I want to make 100% people can't put files/images on my computer before I start using these programs.

A quick response would be appreciated!

Thanks.
P.J.

stief April 27th, 2005 04:32 PM

Re: 'undesirable' material
 
Quote:

Originally posted by P. Johnson
I need to know whether or not using either Limewire or the Gnutella servers = can people put images/music on my server, or can they only download what I have on there?

In other words, is Limewire and Gnutella only for bandwidth and sharing, or are people actually going to start storing images and files on my computer? I want to make 100% people can't put files/images on my computer before I start using these programs.

A quick response would be appreciated!

Thanks.
P.J.

As Peerless said, no one can honestly put stuff on your computer because you use LW or any similar filesharing software.

I suppose viruses and the other malware he mentions might trick your machine into becoming a source of illegal files, but that has nothing to do with proper filesharing software. Email or Web browsing would be equally at risk if you have a Windows machine.

LimeWire only shares the files YOU decide,so carefully check your Library Pane to see if those are the files you approve.

For a more "official" statement, see the link on LW's home page called "Click Here for Important Information about Using P2P Software Safely" http://www.limewire.com/english/content/ftc.shtml

akingsransom April 29th, 2005 09:29 AM

i had 2 friends that had kp on their machines but they did not put it their. one had files in the p2p shared dir and the other had files all over the place. their machines were running redhat like mine and redhat linux has a lot of holes if its not setup. if someone gets a hi user id by hacking a service like sendmail tftp telnet login or anoter service even apache they can pretty much do what they want on that machine. if files are put in a high trafc spot like a p2p shared dir, then the p2p app will begin sharing those files so it like a backdoor to a fileserver. our cUsers group has seen this a few. the other prob is with java on some p2p apps the java jvm that runs on the machine with the app can be vuln if its an older or oem vers. my shop machine was hacked thru telnet and java not the p2p. the p2p's are prety good overall.

JM2C

catty0009 June 10th, 2005 08:32 PM

Illegal Porn
 
here in the US, it is both illegal to possess, as well as selling, trading or any other venue of KP.....I was trying to find a movie myself (not porn) and damned if some kiddie porn came up of a 9 yr old having sex with an adult and what is worse, there were 39 users that had this same file on their pc....makes me sick to my stomach...anyway..back to the issue....it is illegal to own it in any form or shape...and no one wishes that I start on those that like to even watch it

I_Have_No_Account June 10th, 2005 09:00 PM

Quote:

there were 39 users that had this same file on their pc.
Yeah, probably 39 FBI officiers, other bozos trolling paedophiles or people that are too ******* curious. Have you ever considered that these might have been people just like you who have downloaded this without knowning what it is? Most P2P software nowadays shares a file whilst downloading it. You might have uploaded parts of it as well.

There may as well be hidden pictures within whatever files you've ever downloaded. It's trivial to hide a few megabyte of data in a movie, for example. Perhaps "the scene" has a custom tool hide in and extract data from such files. It doesn't even require encryption or anything complicated. Most file formats offer a way to include some data which will simply be ignored by players/viewers.

Keep in mind that the vast majority of child abuse (sexually or not) happens in the FAMILY by the father, uncle, brother and all women aren't innocent either. People are just wasting their time and energy by blathering over this issue with respect to videos and photos on the internet. It's just a symptom not the real problem. Some useless politicans even dare to abuse the issue to create a police state in which everybody and everything can and will be completely controlled with no freedom left.

It would be far better if everyone takes care that such things cannot happen in his own family and neighbour hood.

Even if you shut the whole internet down, the abuse of children will continue. If you stop the abuse of children, there won't be any videos or photos to put on the internet.

Forum monkey June 21st, 2005 09:32 AM

how does the law work regarding movies that feature 16yo's? that is the legal age of consent in a number of countries - - I know that you have to be 18 to star in a produced feature, but how does it stand if that person put's their home movie on the web? if it's amateur then hows that illegal?

I_Have_No_Account June 21st, 2005 09:51 AM

Amateur or "professional" doesn't matter at all. You are obviously not allowed to possess such material. The source is completely irrelevant. Home videos on the web is utter nonsense. Either those are faked, stolen or uploaded by an ex-boyfriend. None of that is a legit excuse for you to download it.

Forum monkey June 21st, 2005 10:10 AM

Thanks for clearing that up.

As many people will agree 90% of theadult files on the network are not what they are coded to be, so your average 18 y/o movie will infact be either CP or some 50 y/o mother with more tatoo's than ink allows and more peircings than a voodoo doll!

I am well against CP and that, I was disgusted the other day when downloading a movie from another host I browsed their files, much to my amazment and disgust there must have been 200+ cp files there. No comes the prediciment on what to do?,
do I
a) report it - then get in trouble for downloading adult stuff from them (not CP by the way)
or just shrug it off as life has it.

I blocked the ip address striaght away so can't find out what it is again!

Lord of the Rings June 21st, 2005 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by catty0009
...I was trying to find a movie myself (not porn) and damned if some kiddie porn came up of a 9 yr old having sex with an adult and what is worse, there were 39 users that had this same file on their pc....
One small point, where a file has been deliberately mislabelled, then please report it to Bitzi so others can know about it. Bitzi needs support. How to use Bitzi Web Lookup ... (click on link) & downld the Bitzi Bitcollider that allows you to report about files to the Bitzi site.


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