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  #151 (permalink)  
Old October 7th, 2007
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What i use is CCleaner and set is to the NSA (7 passes) Secure Deletion. Which means that it deletes everything you want it to by first overwriting it with zeros seven times and then deletes it. Most secure way i can think of. Awesome program that i recommend anyone who has had this problem to get.
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Old October 20th, 2007
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First let me state that I have a pre-excisting condition known as Paranoid Personality Disorder, therefore I am extremely paranoid about everything that goes on around me, nonetheless through therapy I have been able to lead a rather successful life, last year in my senior year in high school I was looking for some porn (adult) and came across a video that said hot redhead pthc, I did not know what this stood for so having a thing for redheads, i dowloaded it, but it wouldn't let me preview so I cancelled but didn't delete the partial until like two months later when I found out there even was a partial left, then I found out that I was sharing partials. Also just a month ago I was looking for some videos and downloaded like eight at the time none of the titles suggested internet porn to me, but I also did not know that hussyfan was also child porn, my computer downloaded this file extremely quick but since all the videos had similar names I did not watch it after it was dowloaded b/c I just went right by it. I went out of town that week and my roomate used my computer including limewire, he still hadn't purchased his. when i came back I chose this video and as soon as I realized that it was child porn I deleted it, but ever since I have become a mess, I scrub my harddrive daily, I get scared whenever I hear a cop car coming, I have resummed smoking, which I had given up a year prior, now I'm on two and a half packs a day, I need to take a couple of valium pills in order to sleep for three hours each night, I have already had two nervous breakdowns while I was by myself at home, I haven't been abel to have sex with my girlfriend in two weeks, I just keep imagining scenarios where the feds come to my house and take me for 5 years for pocession of cp. I tanked a midterm just yesterday. I have found that people in this forum appear to know their stuff and I am about as ignorant as there can be about technology, It was an accident i didn't mean to download cp, and i didn't notice i left it on my computer for a week,(neither did my roomate), but this brought up the fact that what if someone caught on the the partial left on my parents computer, that said pthc. I can't deal with this anymore, I'M ON THE EDGE OF SANITY, since i live on a third floor i have considered jumping off a couple of times. Sometimes I just wanna turn my self in to the cops and get it over with. What scares me the most is that I will spend next semester as a exchange student in University of Madrid and I will be away from my parents, and if somebody comes looking for them, because of my ignorance I won't be around to take the blame. Can somebody tell me if my paranoia has any basis whether the cops would spend their time in tracking somebody with a single file down, also if they would how long would it take for them to reach that person, from what I have seen in some cases it took about two months after the investigation began, in others it took 6 months but i really don't know. I am desperate please give me a quick response, what is left of my sanity hangs in the balance, and I need to know what's coming. Thank You
PS **** those child molestors, because of them me, an outstanding student a decent member of society, is reduced to a dependence on sleeping pills, and cigarettes to keep from going completely crazy or even worse killing my self. If I do get thrown in jail over this, I will do everything in my power when I get out to make sure those scumbags suffer a slow painful death.
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Old October 20th, 2007
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don't look at that stuff you can go to jail just for looking at it.The FBI are hard on people that do that stuff so in other words stay fore from it okay.
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Old October 21st, 2007
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I didn't want to look at that stuff. I just didn't know that pthc stood for preeteen harcore, I mean are we all suppossed to know the lingo of the pedophiles. I am still scared shitless, and I just feel that getting this of my chest will make it all better
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Just a quick note to boston 1 about files that won't delete, I found that the best one around for doing this is DelinvFile - Utility for Deleting Invalid Files and Folders
Hasn't failed me yet !!
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Old December 24th, 2007
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Ok. First let me say that child porn is a horrible, terrible thing.

Now, the police will spend time trying to catch the people who upload these videos instead of the people viewing them for two reasons:
it stops it at the source,
and that is the easiest way to get a conviction.

Waterinthefuel. You are lying to the forum, either in that you never went to prison, or in the manor that you received child pornography and your actual intent. (or, perhaps, you had a very poor lawyer.) In order to download a file from a p2p network, you must allow people to connect to your IP (which can be secured with a little effort). However, that is very difficult to trace to one particular computer, especially in 2002. If you were searching for a file called "young" by that artist, found that it was not what you wanted,and you deleted the file, the evidence used in court can very well prove your story if the particular circulating file was in fact labeled (on the p2p site)"young, kenny chesney". That title would mean you could not possibly expect the contents to be illegal porn, thus proving lack on intent. (that and you deleted the file) Because you were convicted, the courts ruled that the file you downloaded from kazza was in fact labeled in a manor that you would know what you were receiving, since your IP address came off of that particular file extension (according to your story), which would include the file name.

In America, you are innocent until proven guilty. They convicted you because they had enough evidence against you. If you truly were innocent, you would have taken the necessary measures to prove this such as providing a link to the file you downloaded to the court with its title and actual content, or replacing your hard drive immediately after you received those files.

My theory is that you were convicted of a crime which permitted the police to search your home. They found the pornography on your hard drive, and convicted you of that in addition to your original sentence. Your feeble, uneducated argument, is that you did not know what you were receiving. Please, unless you provide full court records (with the full story), don't try to obtain pity from the forum.


to the young person viewing this material. My advice to you is find a girlfriend your age, or stick to legal pornography, (even though its illegal for you to view). Porn is dangerous, and can be emotionally addicting. It can destroy marriages, careers, and lives. While child pornography is normal to you now, when you grow older it may become a dangerous obsession.
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Old December 27th, 2007
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i am also worried. I am 14, and like that other guy i am normal sh*t i have many freinds and like lots of ppl my age i look at porn. I use limewire every once in a while and i am shocked when i see that weird porn in the serch results, so last night i downloaded one of a 15 yr old and i then deleted it about 1 minute after it finished downloading i only downloaded it to see if it was real and im not sure it was. I also downlaoded one about a girl and a dog and it was real, so after that i googled wierd porn on google and found this thread i was not concerned but after seeing all these posts i am very concerned, so what is the chance that i willget caught over 1 file.

btw i used eraser and erased limewire and itunes, which is where the files are from. do i need to somehow get the actual files in the trash then do it or will deleting limewire also delete the files from limewire?
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Old December 27th, 2007
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oh yeah,and what can they actually do to a 14 year old?
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I am qualified to respond to these questions, but this will be my sole post. I will try to keep it short and sweet.

As for what they can do to minors, that varies from jurisdiction to jurisdiction. Prosecution of minors is a very gray legal area. But, Just. Stay. Away. It's not worth it.

I did not read the entire thread, but some people on here were giving bad advice. Do. Not. Ever. turn in child porn to the Feds. If you discover child porn you need to let them know the location of it, but not actually give it to them. POSESSING CHILD PORN IS ILLEGAL. By all means, tell them where they can find it, but do not have a whiff of it on you. However, there are many volunteers who turn in locations of child pornography to the police - this is a very good and noble act. Just be really, really careful. People who have turned in tapes of child porn have been busted for posession...digital downloads are the same thing, legally. So point out, but do not touch. Pretend you found a gun on the side of the road. Sure, call the cops - but don't get your fingerprints or DNA on it.

Most, and I emphasize the word most, people get caught by sharing it. It's the same way with illegally obtained music. If you accidentally download child porn, the first thing you need to do is get it out of the shared folder. The second thing you should do is uninstall the file-sharing program (you can reinstall after this is all said and done). Then download an erasing program. Research it to make sure it is what it is. I recommend at least seven passes with a DoD overwriting algorithm. Good erasure programs will have a few options. ERASE the file in question - don't delete it. (Most erasure programs delete and erase at once.)

Once you've erased the file, then go clear all of your history, temporary internet files, cookies, and document history. Then reboot. Then you want to use the erasure program to overwrite ALL of the free space on your hard drives. I would suggest doing this a few times (with different algorithms) - just in case.

At this point you should be good to go. Running a defrag couldn't hurt either. Also make sure you have anti-spyware and anti-virus software up to date and run them weekly. (This should be done anyway.)

At this point, they'd need an electron microscope to get the data off your hard drive, which is way too expensive to use in prosecution for...well, for most things. Even then, them getting data is a maybe, at best.

If you really think the cops are coming and you've done all of this, then you could reformat your hard drive. If you KNOW that there is a warrant out for you (but have not been given an order to preserve data, which is rare), after the re-format you'll want to degausse the hard-drive using electromagnets. Then make the hard drive disappear. At that point you're 99.999999% sure that they won't be able to get anything.

However, sometimes corporations or government organizations are ordered not to destroy data. Obstruction of justice is a serious charge...the chances of that being applied for this reason in a single criminal case is low.

But, for all intents and purposes, clearing out your history and erasing the file, and then all of the free space on your hard drive is the best way to go. You can sleep well and still use your machine again.

However, the best way to do it is just be really selective on what you download. Do not do massive downloads and pay attention to things as they come in. If you catch something, you catch it right away, before it gets shared.

Anyway, be safe, don't search for it, and be moderately paranoid, and you should be ok!
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Old January 18th, 2008
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These days i was shocked to find child porn on adult websites. When you search on google 'adult sex', it does have adult content but then there are many that also have under 18's. So if someone clicked on the link that says teens' on the adult website you would expect them to be 18/19 yrs old. So can you still be arrested for this mistake?
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