No it is not a bad thing to hire full time coders!

My point is the way how they make money, if their product is REALLY good they should ask money for it and not bundle spyware!

What do you think how good Xolox would be today if they had done this? But they never wanted to make dirty money - ask Pasman if you want!

Morgwen

How they make the money may be ethically suspect to some, but that fact doesn't diminish the quality of the end product. And asking for donations isn't a very good way to keep a business afloat (that is basic economics).

If Pasman had done this with Xolox and kept up its development I think xolox would most likely be one of the best gnutella clients available. But we'll probably never know just how much potential was really there.

And as far as Pasman not wanting to make money in that manner, good for him. It respectable that someone can choose a system of ethics and stick to them.

But not everyone shares the same system of ethics. That doesn't necessarily mean that what they do is wrong or evil. It just means they're different.

I imagine that the way in which I make my money is not the way in which most people here make theirs. That doesn't mean I'm a better person then they are or vice versa. It just means we're different.

Of course NOT! You should SELL your product!

Spyware money is dirty money, you can say what you want mrgone...

I hope there will be laws against such tools soon!

Yes we all have differents way to make money some sell drugs, some steal it and other go to work and earn it! :rolleyes:

But there is a good solution and a bad solution!

Morgwen

mrgone likes to talk without content. just making down every new argument and new idea, a boring destructive rhetoric trick. can someone with an own opinion speak up?

Some people sell their product via distributing advertisments. And the line between spyware and adware is one the shifts depending who you ask. The stuff that is really hard core spyware already is illegal in most areas.

We do all have different ways of making money. Some people paint houses, some people are in marketing, some people play the stock market. It is not up to you to say whether any one of those people has earned their paycheck.

The analogy of stealing or selling drugs equating to bundling third party adware (or whatever *you* want to call it) is invalid. Stealing and selling drugs are illegal practices, third party bundling is not.

What's the matter? Can't stand up to your ideas being challenged?

If you have a problem with people making you think about things in a different light then you really need to open your mind.

Bundling spyware should be illegal!

This was my last statemnet in this thread!

Morgwen

Great, people like Mrgone turn Gnutellaforums into Bearshare.net with brawl, rumours and half-wisdom. Good work, you are helping Vinnie and his holly VIPs to kill Gnutella and punch any seriousity out of this place. no, we are not challanged, fight with Vinnie, he likes aggresive minds. you can only make things down. better create something and if you can't let others create something, but keep your destructive mind out of it.

Why don't you get it? We have source code that does everything the other "pay for" clients do. Now all you do is add a little feature here or there. It's not that hard and if each developer puts in a little time it will be great.
No $$ needed.
Money makes development faster, but open source always catches up.
The difference on Gnutella is the "pay for" clients not only suck the computer resources from their users, they suck it off other users who don't CHOSE to be sucked!

AND THAT SUCKS! :)

On another subject, what made XoloX so wonderful? Isn't "swarming" now working the same?

BTW: It looks like about three or four people are posting under Unregistered, so don't think you are talking to the same guy every time.

You should choose a nick! :)

Morgwen