> Yes the MAIN problem is VINNIE but he is the chief coder so THIS IS OF COURSE A BEARSHARE ISSUE!
Even though Vinnie is a prime example of corporate style greed gone berzerk, it's not just him. Just wait to see what Morpheus does after a little while.
What happens when LimeWire goes under and/or gets purchased by a large corporation? It's all about profit.
Maybe the threat of blocking will keep them in line, I hope so.
The only new thing new here is you can now set blocking via the GUI and then blocking happens without you doing anything.
Before you could simply press "remove" for any client you wanted to remove from your connection list. And press "Stop" or even block IP's you didn't like in uploads.
I have seen people posting about doing this manually to try to move around the network to get a better "horizon". I am sure people used this method to block things they didn't like, or just for a power trip.
This is one feature you won't see in a pay for client!
I did mention that this new client works on Gnutella or the OpenSource P2P Net didn't I?
http://opensourcep2p.sf.net Stop the greed!

Blocking other users in an attempt to diminish their quality of service just so you can push your political agenda is abusing the network.

This is a free network. Meaning (in part) that each user has the right to choose whichever client they wish to use, without reprisal.

Your attempt to splinter gnutella along partisan lines is ethically reprehensible.

We share as a community without boundary. Without limits on income level, sex, race, creed, religion, or politics.

The other day I donated a very good TV and some other good household items to a charity in good faith that they would give it to a needy family. I talked to the guy at the counter and he assured me it would go to a good family.
Later that week I happened upon a garage sale that just happened to be this counter persons home and he was selling my TV and the other items!
Should I

A. Call a cop.
B. Report him to the charity.
C. Take it all back.
D. Kick his A..

Wouldn't you call this a 3rd party leeching off my good intentions?

Call a cop and report it to the charity.

And no, this isn't leeching, this is fraud.

can there not be a thread about gnutella issues where mrgone4662 doesnt flood? come one now... i think that we are all old enough to know when to keep our hands off the keyboard...

:)

ps to mrgone4662 please dont go tearing everything that i say appart and over analysize what i say. this just makes things worse. i know you are a mixer, but i believe what this network needs right now is some stability and not people mixing things up.

So it is fraud. That's pretty serious.
What if this guy was going to sell the TV at the garage sale and donate 50% back to the charity and kept the rest, would that be OK? What about 80% or 20%?
And if the charity slaps this guy, and a month later I find out he is doing it again, what should I do?
Should I get the neighborhood community together and stop this?

You can already automatically block/drop people who don't have enough "friends" in Gnucleus and some other clients, meaning nodes with a limited horizon. That is picking on those poor people who don't have a lot of bandwidth, IE modem users or people in another country.
Those internal private college LANs won't let you in from the outside, they block you too. They also block anyone on the internal LAN that doesn't have the correct LAN name entered.
At 300 plus nodes they don't seem to have a problem sharing at all so it doesn't matter.
Your horizon on Gnutella is limited even now to a few thousand nodes (or less). You are blocked from the rest of the network, how can you move around to other areas?
Blocking is already happening in many ways, this is just the next step in giving the user more choices, and more power over how he shares.
Some people want to create their own semi private network of friends, you can easily do that now and block any "outside" connections.

You should try to stay on topic. Or were you beating around the bush about something?

He is on topic... he is talking about Vinnie! (I think so)

Morgwen

Zeropaid has a article about this at
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../04012002b.php