Hope they never do it.

h4x5h17 · #1 (**permalink**) February 6th, 2016

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I occasionally see ultrapeers with port 80 but this might be for a different reason. An example was one using Cabos but not using cable. I can verify a particular cable using host having used port 80 but they are using an app that can utilize forced ultrapeer mode. I've wondered if this is the case. (I'm against forced ultrapeer mode being available in apps except perhaps for testing. I talked bigjx into removing it from WireShare because it potentially damages the network if the host is firewalled.)

It wouldn't be so bad to have force ultrapeer, if it was only able to function as a way to initiate a network. Once a network was built up statistics should determine who is an ultrapeer. If the option is selected it should atleast be tested against someones firewall status. If you cannot listen from your external IP, then it should be forced disabled.

I think some apps will note behavior of ultrapeers that cannot preform as expected. Probably because some clients have an outdated idea of what good performance is, and haven't been updated to modern capacities (I haven't looked at enough client code to know).

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As for VPN, yeah no doubt people should do the research about each specific VPN. As a whole, USA might not be the best place to obtain one but that's purely IMHO from what I've read about each one's protection policies and potential for government or other interference.

Completely agree with you. The US is a ugly place right now. But you can see that disease ardently spreading.

Lord of the Rings · #2 (**permalink**) February 7th, 2016

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Once a network was built up statistics should determine who is an ultrapeer.

From my understanding, the network does this itself. I don't believe tampering with this is necessarily beneficial for the network IMHO. Low average uptime hosts do not necessarily deserve UP status (particularly but not only if their ip addressing is highly dynamic.)

Possible misconception: Many people seem to think being an ultrapeer means you get better search results. I recall one of the original FrostWire devs & a major LW contributor saying (on this forum) that leafs actually obtain a superior search horizon than UP's. Of course that can potentially be hampered by dud or poorly performing UP's along the way, etc.
In my personal (and recent) testing on this leaf versus ultrapeer topic, I found as a leaf I was getting more search results for the same search terms than when I connected as an ultrapeer. Example: around 120 compared to around or over 200. A notable difference and this test repeated over several sessions.

Sorry this post is actually off-topic from your original thread topic.

h4x5h17 · #3 (**permalink**) February 7th, 2016

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Sorry this post is actually off-topic from your original thread topic.

No problem. It is still good discussion.

I'm glad you looked into the Ipv4/Ipv6 data.

In a world where Ipv6 was used by the majority of providers, I wonder if it would change Fastweb's mind on its service practices. As things sit right now, they could almost come off as trying to help with the addressing problem. Dirty pool :|

My provider (cable not fiber) kinda suck also. While they do give me external world port access, they charge the same for their slowest connection package. I get 10Mbps down/3.5Mbps and pay a little more than what a friend of mine pays for fiber(200 miles away). People only 50 miles away from me get the same connection speed at half the cost.