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Old November 17th, 2001
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Angry Adverts

I appreciate that limewire is freeware and can therefore understand the need to raise revenues from advertising, but in the version 1.8b you have REPLACED useful connection information with an irritating banner ad. Would it not have been possible to include the adverts without sacrificing a useful feature?
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Old November 18th, 2001
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I don't see the ad ; my anti-spyware program is eating it up ...
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Old November 18th, 2001
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Default ok first of all.

I'm a hardcore LimeWire fan, hence my name for one thing. I didnt like the adversiting too much either when I first heard about it. But if you think about it LimeWire, Inc. is trying to make a public decentralized P2P network. Which means P2P networks like morpheus is pretty much funded by a company, MusicCity has set up connections to be supernodes which means they can/could be sued like Napster and maybe end of losing. Then the network would be no more. With the Gnutella network there is no central server to take down. It would be virtually impossible to take down. I've been using LimeWire for the past year. I've seen tons of improvements to the gnutella network with the usage of LimeWire gnutella servants. The reason it doesnt have alot of "features" or the same "features" as some of ther P2P network clients have is b/c they're like 10+ different gnutella clients that use the network. They're trying to introduce new technologies without harming the current network structure. Thats why they release clients with just a few features over a period of time. I mean you wouldnt want to have like 100+ features of a new release and then 10,000+ downloads of then clients b/c its pretty much a 100% chance it would mess up the whole gnutella network leaving everyone in the dark (I mean a few LimeWire releases have had connections problems). First they have to improve the structure (stability....connections), querying and routing (ping, pong, and searching), then they can focus on new technologies such as swarmed downloading and etc. So in time....gnutella is going to be the fastest and biggest P2P ever and there would be no way of taking it down. Another thing that is cool is that LimeWire, Inc is offering all of this for free. Which means I would like them to continue the LimeWire project and make more improvements to the gnutella network. So I dont mind having a small ad at the bottom of my screen. Actually I dont even notice it. You can also donate money if you like. Also its not spy-ware, its just sending data back and forth to the ad server to retrieve the different ad images. I believe LimeWire when they say they dont use spy-ware. I mean if you dont like, use some other client :x. About the network statistics, in the older versions if you used a TTL higher than 7 it would have interconnections to the same host, in which host X might be 6 hops away and also 9 hops away. Meaning you getting dup stats and twice more traffic than you really need. But as far as LimeWire, Inc taking away the statistic information they didnt. Go to Options > Statistics ...its that simple. Just remember 1000MB = ~1GB, 100,000 = ~100GB, and 1,000,000 = ~1TB, it shouldnt get higher than that unless you have some type of T3+ connection. Well I hope this has cleared some issuses that have been out in the open. Later.
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Old November 18th, 2001
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Default Re: ok first of all.

Quote:
Originally posted by anti-bearshare
Also its not spy-ware, its just sending data back and forth to the ad server to retrieve the different ad images. I believe LimeWire when they say they dont use spy-ware. I mean if you dont like, use some other client :x.
No offense, but yes it is. Aureate is one of the oldest spyware companies. Cydoor is one of the worst. Gator is a new one, but it's also rather infamous of late. Ezula is the least of them, but it and Gator are not only spyware, they are thiefware in that they steal from the users and they steal from webmasters by changing the content of their site and in Gator's case it replaces paid-ads with those of the Gator's clients.
Cydoor installs even if you tell it no during the install. This is established. It has been tested over and over in every version of it. It remains behind (as do all of them) even if you attempt to uninstall them and the host (limewire). It sends back information about the user's habits (as do all of them). That is the definition of spyware.
Make up your own mind. The best information about them can be found at this site, and I say that as the owner of another spyware site.
http://www.cexx.org/aureate.htm
http://www.cexx.org/cydoor.htm
http://www.cexx.org/gator.htm
http://www.cexx.org/toptext.htm

Mike Healan
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Old November 19th, 2001
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Default ok.

Ok, if thats true. Then I would like to get rid of it also. I know there is spychecker and a couple other programs. I would like to know which is the best to use and get rid of these type of things. Thank you.
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Old November 19th, 2001
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Default Re: ok.

Quote:
Originally posted by anti-bearshare
Ok, if thats true. Then I would like to get rid of it also. I know there is spychecker and a couple other programs. I would like to know which is the best to use and get rid of these type of things. Thank you.
Hi anti-bearshare!

The problem is tools like ad-aware find the cydoors and dlls, but after deleting them Limewire doesn´t work anymore!

Test it:

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0...0-7302674.html

Morgwen
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Old November 20th, 2001
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AdAware is the best for removing known spyware. If you haven't already gotten it, download it from my site (no this isn't a plug). I have it zipped with the most recent reflist update (C-Net's copy doesn't not include this file) so you don't have to download from c-net, then go to lavasoft to find the reflist. The reflist is exactly the same thing as an antivirus definition file.
http://www.spywareinfo.com/downloads/aaw.zip
Install it, then open the lavasoft adaware folder in the program files folder, delete reflist.sig, then replace it with the reflist included in the download.
There is nothing that can be done about the fact that anything that bundles cydoor is going to stop working once cydoor is removed. That also is the nature of true spyware.
All you can do is make a decision. Is downloading free movies and music worth having cydoor selling your email address, web surfing habits, name, etc to anyone with money to buy? If not, go get WinMx or some other spyware-free product. You can check whether a product bundles spyware at either www.spychecker.com or www.tom-cat.com/spybase/spylist.html
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Old November 21st, 2001
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Great program man.
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Old November 21st, 2001
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Default no ads

Just use the OTHERS LimeWire install/package and that package doesnt have ads or even any kind of Banner.dll. Just install it over you're old LimeWire install and run the ad-ware just to check if you wanna make sure. It works fine for me.
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Old November 21st, 2001
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Cheerz - I'll give it a go
 

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