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Old June 28th, 2006
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Default Is it possible to un-upload music from Limewire, per the artist's request?

Hi LeeWare,
I ask this question, because the artist has asked me. I misunderstood what permission I had, and loaded some music into MY library. I am presuming that means it is available for unknown parties to then search for this music and download a copy of it from me. Is this correct? The artist has some live music I am welcome to share, but apparently not a recorded release. How can I make this right?

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There is a raging debate over the legal aspects of file-sharing. I hope to spread some light on this issue.

I am starting this thread because I've been asked this question quite often.

A. The Concept Of File-sharing in itself is NOT illegal.

B. Contrary to Popular Belief (downloading certain material unfortunately is stealing-based-on-the-law) - I'll attempt to explain the controversy.

b1. Stealing means to take the property of another without permission. So the argument goes: (if x -->y and y-->z)

If x owns/produces a product and sells it to y and y in turn shares-it with z (did z commit theft?)

The answer is a matter of perspective:
z did not commit an act of theft against y (this is where most people stop in their arguments)

BUT z did commit an act of theft against x (by law because z did not obtain permission from x to acquire the product and or resource).

Now y did not commit theft but did infringe on the rights of x because when y purchased a product from x one of the conditions of that sale was to abide by the conditions of using the product those rights are clearly spelled out in the fine print on most material.

If you go to court this is what's going to be at issue, so the judge does not care about how you perceived this agreement and the issue will be decided on the fact presented.

C. What about fair use?

Again the consumers rights are explained in legal verbage of the material. However people are not getting in trouble for using their products fairly they are getting in trouble for violating the terms of the agreements they made when purchasing certain digital media.

Nobody has gone to jail for converting their media to another format (MP3/AVI etc) for their personal use. (however this can sometimes be a violation of an agreement (read the fine print.))

What has drawn attention to this issue is that people take those digital copies and share them in a public place (the Internet) where people (anonymous users) can obtain this material. This issue would not exist if people did not do this.

Finally, there is a process for obtaining permission for certain types of additional uses.

hope this helps

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Default Making it right!

mrsmoose1478,

A simple way to right this particular wrong is to simply stop sharing the content that is infringing. There's nothing you can do about the stuff that's be uploaded onto the network from your computer.


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Okay, next dumb question: do you happen to know how I stop sharing?
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Default Legal aspects...

Okay, I figured it out...thanks for your help!
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So is limewire illigal or not?
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AVDPrayer,

The LimeWire program is 100% legal.

It is legal for you to share your stuff, e.g. your photos, recipes, home movies, that audio file of you singing in the shower. You can also download similar things from other people.

Where you run into trouble is when you violate copyright laws by downloading and or sharing (mostly) movies(DVDs), and music(CDs). Basically anything that you can purchase in a store is protected by copyright laws.

Copyright laws are different in different countries, so it's hard to answer your question completely without knowing where your from.

So to summarize, the LimeWire program is legal, but how you choose to use it may not be. You should check what your local laws are before using LimeWire.
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