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Old June 30th, 2006
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They might not have had free slots. It's hard to know. What was the connection quality when you browsed them? How many stars? 4 is generally the best & represents best chance of connecting & downlding off them.

You'll find it easier to browse people who show the chat icon enabled. Especially those uploading from you.
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4 stars and they had chat enabled the guy uploading on 3 slots only had chat enabled on 2 slots it dissappeared on the third.

But why would my first slot stop downloading just cause he hit a limit shouldn't i maintain my slot on that DL and understandably wait for busy host on the other?

Thanks again you da man!!! if you like House music and chilled stuff let me know i will try to find out my ip and pm you or post it here (is there a reason i shouldn't post that here?)
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I had my uploads per host set to 5. The reason I had to make it two uploads is because of the ******* morons that will start downloading 3-4 700MB rare videofiles at the same time.

BTW I am not on all the time, but every day for 4-10 hours so everytime I start up Limewire people get 2 more files. And if you and others would follow my advise there would be no problem at all Everyone is not on all the time. Some have monthly downloadlimits from their ISP's, Others have a unreliable connection or are badly set up or both. Some are using Laptops that they have to use for other things as well as P2P and a million other reasons. I bet 95% of your unsuccesful downloads are not from people killing your download, if not 99.9%.

Also uploadslots should be set so every slot can deliver at least 5 KB (others may disagree, but I don't really care) I have 50 KB up on 5 slots because of video

Check out the this thread. It explains how to best get succesfull musicdownloads

How to find music

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Thanks Sleepless

Personally i only allow single tracks for upload as i don't know of any whole cd's worthy of the space on my hard drive. I try to be selective and weed out the filler. I don't do video or programs so i have no large files this is why i feel i can offer more slots. My bandwidth is set to max for uploads so anyone who can will turbo charge and move on. This is how i feel it should be i never liked speed limits being imposed on me i belive most traffic jams are caused by slow & cautious drivers

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"I bet 95% of your unsuccesful downloads are not from people killing your download, if not 99.9%"

How do you explain why my first slot would stop downloading just cause the host hit a limit shouldn't i maintain my slot on that DL and understandably wait for busy host on the other requested DL? Especially while he is still downloading the 3 slots from me!!! I bet if he knew he could get away with 20 slots from me he would be suckin it up

Sorry i have much less faith is these ******* leeches than the platform
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Unless you have a really fast connection 20 slots will be setting a speedlimit. Let's just as an example say you have 100 KB up then if all are filled you will be giving to 20 different uploads at only 5 KB/sec. If you set that on 10 they would be getting 10 KB/sec. Set it on 5, they get 20 etc. (Off course depending on their max download speed) but if one goes slow, the others will speed up in most cases.

I don't know you're speed, maybe it's more or maybe even less than that, so you do the math.

Regarding your download problem:

Set up can really have a lot to do with transfers being interrupted. Like in my case for some reason I can't get my router to portforward Limewire (not because of lack of trying) At least half of my uploads will get interrupted not because any limit has been reached, but rather because of bad setup from my side and maybe bad setup from the downloaders side. I notice often that people that do not have the chat enabled smiley a lot more often will get failed uploads from me than those who have it. Others may stay connected for my whole uptime without a single problem. My slots are almost always full from about 15 minutes from logging on to network and always close to max speed. If one fails another one starts. That could be a reason for some of your downloads failing, if there is a temporary interruption and then all slots + queue are full. A lot of people share video as well and all slots may then be in use for up to a day at a time if not more.

I think you use the worse case scenario to the max. I can not explain why this happened to you, I am not a programmer. I only say that you can't be sure that's the reason

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Hi all

Re upload speeds and T1 or T3: Find out what your ISP has allowed by doing several tests from a site that measures your uploads, like http://www.broadbandreports.com/stest

If you can manage 100 KB/s upload speed (1000 bps ) or better, then you can set as a T3 and reduce the upload bandwidth to the minimum of that scale, which is ~97 KB/s. For other upload speeds, try the different setting in the LW options and choose the one that has the range you can handle.

Re the slots: the magic words are "client side queueing." This means you could choose to download 500 files, but only one or two requests would be sent at a time (your machine would be polite and only send more when the others finished). That way, your LW would automatically honour whatever limit the other had set, and there would be no risk of being banned as "greedy" because LW would know not to ask for a harmful number. The person who asks for 60 of my pics (120 MB) would be treated the same as the person who wanted one video (120 MB). I would not want the person who asked for 60 videos to deny the people interested in the pics Client -side queueing would make fair sharing of upload slots and bandwith much fairer IMHO.

Please register and vote at https://www.limewire.org/jira/browse/CORE-21 if you want this feature added to future LimeWires (the developers consider the votes when deciding what features to work on).

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Now that's a feature more needed then any other and I will gladly give it my vote.

They could almost call it Limewire 5 if that was done
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If your bandwidth is never reached why don't you allow more slots and more per person? It's the BW that regulates the drain on your PC so then it would be first come first serve and the speedy ones would get out clearing the way for other traffic. Can you imagine all the checkouts in a store limiting your items how would you feel about that?

Thanks for your imput as i really want to know if their are stingy hosts out there or just what i would consider faults in the system. If it is the later then i would never ban anyone but with the situation i have described here

(When downloading from a host my first DL slot would stop downloading; even if i hit the hosts limit shouldn't i maintain my slot on that DL and understandably get a (wait for busy host or upload limit reached) on the other requested DL? Especially while he is still downloading the 3 slots from me meaning he is still active)

it seems like certian hosts derail me when i try a second DL and i can't get back on with that host. These hosts are gonna get banned from me until someone here can give me a logical reason for this to happen. I hate rules and think banning is **** but freeloaders are ******* leeches who need a fire under their ***. Sorry but limitting your upload traffic by any other means than bandwidth seems a bit harsh and although not the same as being a leech it still demonstrates excessive control.

Something that puzzels me i never get a banned for being greedy message; but i have never used anything under 4.10 do the newer versions still send this message if you are banned?


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That would be a very cool feature Thanks i have voted and hope more do. Have you or could you dedicate a thread to that feature and try to get more involved

I have done speed 2 tests and they vary UL 200kbps/300kbps DL 800kbps/900kbps but i couldn't find any that worked in my country and i was connected to LW don't know if it makes a difference. To be honest speed isn't my real issue it's incomplete downloads that are winding me up.

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I feel client side queueing if added should replace the options to limit uploads though, allowing only your bandwidth settings to regulate the drain on your CPU
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I hear where your commin from don't totally agree on everything but it sounds like you have more experience than me and with time i may see things clearer from your window.

It sounds like i might like to check out some of your sounds and do a little test as well i will send you a pm with my ip please browse & download push the limits mine is set at 20 it will be a good test you might find some more rare gems i consider my collection Deep & Wide

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