no download from shareazaa

Morgwen · #31 (**permalink**) October 6th, 2004

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Originally posted by et voilà
You must be right then, because your two european cents value more than my two canadian cents

If Kath starts with her two pence I also lost.

Morgwen

#32 (**permalink**) March 23rd, 2005

link removed, you guy didn't log to avoid to be ban for spam, hé?

new p2p networking.

#33 (**permalink**) July 26th, 2005

I use gtk-gnutella. I upload files constantly at 50-60K as both in leafnode and as ultra-peer, but my download rate rarely reach over 4 K!!
I share about 5 Gb of files and that shouldn't be too low, when I'm constantly uploading to the limit.
My client gets a ******* ban from some of the ******* Shareaza crap servers!! But, I get no reason why.

I upload constantly and have NO discusting illegal porno ****, just good music, softwares, ordinary movies and some nice ordinary porno pictures and movies with beautiful women.

Do they ban me cause I'm not using Shareaza?? That would be the largest crap of all in that case.

How do I send messages to the server operators with gtk-gnutella? I don't find that option.

jlh · #34 (**permalink**) July 26th, 2005

I use both of those applications: Shareaza on windows and gtk-gnutella on linux. However, I never had toubles downloading from gtk-gnutella in Shareaza, and neither downloading from Shareaza in gtk-gnutella. Both works fine for me.

Shareaza does not ban gtk-gnutella, because it has no reason to do so and it wouldn't be fair. The reason that you can't download off some Shareaza clients is the following: Shareaza can connect to multiple networks and many people only use some of the networks that Shareaza supports. This means that some Shareaza users will not enable the Gnutella network, but use some other network instead, like eDonkey2000, G2 or BitTorrent. And Shareaza can be configured to not upload or download from networks that are not being connected to. Therefore, if you use a Gnutella client like gtk-gnutella, you can't download from a Shareaza client that has Gnutella disabled and that doesn't allow uploads to networks that aren't connected. But that's only fair, because those Shareaza clients won't download from Gnutella either and therefore won't download from gtk-gnutella.

Shareaza has always used the same policy when deciding which clients to upload to and which clients to download from. When Shareaza downloads from client X, it will also upload to X. (On a per-user basis of course.)

et voilà · #35 (**permalink**) July 26th, 2005

Are you sure you are banned Guest2000? As jlh said, Raza doesn't ban others. What they do, however is giving very crappy download speeds when any because of their idiotic idea of multinetwork simultaneously. I admire Mike, but boy that decision was stoopid.

Lord of the Rings · #36 (**permalink**) July 26th, 2005

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Originally posted by jlh
The reason that you can't download off some Shareaza clients ... Shareaza can be configured to not upload or download from networks that are not being connected to. Therefore, if you use a Gnutella client like gtk-gnutella, you can't download from a Shareaza client that has Gnutella disabled

I'm a little curious here. If a Shareaza client has disabled Gnutella, will they still appear on the Gnutella network in searches by gnutella clients? If so then they'd be phantoms giving the gnutella user delusions of potential files available & downloadable without the knowledge or any clues that they can't downld these files.

et voilà · #37 (**permalink**) July 26th, 2005

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Originally posted by Lord of the Rings
I'm a little curious here. If a Shareaza client has disabled Gnutella, will they still appear on the Gnutella network in searches by gnutella clients? If so then they'd be phantoms giving the gnutella user delusions of potential files available & downloadable without the knowledge or any clues that they can't downld these files.

The results don't appear.

jlh · #38 (**permalink**) July 27th, 2005

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Originally posted by Lord of the Rings
I'm a little curious here. If a Shareaza client has disabled Gnutella, will they still appear on the Gnutella network in searches by gnutella clients?

They don't. Shareaza never sends out Gnutella search results when not connected to Gnutella. However, there is another way that sources will spread around: The alternate source mesh. Unfortunately, sources from different networks may get mixed up in that source mesh, making G2-only sources appear in a Gnutella-only context. I'm not very sure about the current situation of this problem, and unlike what I was thinking first, this might have been taken care of already to some degree. However, fixing this problem in the various clients does not solve this problem yet. It's enough that some people use old clients (which are possibly buggy or misbehaving) of their favourite p2p client and this may cause G2 sources to appear in Gnutella context again. And of course, Gnutella clients have not much other choice than to believe the information they get.

I guess one of the best thing to do here is to tell everyone that use old clients to upgrade to the newest version. Or if some clients are still mixing up alternate sources, they must be fixed.

et voilà says Shareaza gives crappy speeds. But remember that while the upload bandwidth will get spread across all connected networks, the very same is also true for the download bandwidth, thus there's nothing unfair about it. Plus, by doing this, Shareaza acts as a nice bridge between different p2p networks; i.e. this brings contents of for example the eDonkey2000 network into the Gnutella network and the other way around.

et voilà · #39 (**permalink**) July 27th, 2005

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Originally posted by jlh
et voilà says Shareaza gives crappy speeds. But remember that while the upload bandwidth will get spread across all connected networks, the very same is also true for the download bandwidth, thus there's nothing unfair about it. Plus, by doing this, Shareaza acts as a nice bridge between different p2p networks; i.e. this brings contents of for example the eDonkey2000 network into the Gnutella network and the other way around.

False. THAT'S unfair, and you know it jlh, I'm sorry for you. You probably know that upload bandwidth is THE limiting factor, the download speed for majority of users isn't. And Raza is defavoring Gnutella with the upload bandwidth split since they prefer respect ED2K and BT than Gnutella, hence the stoopid queues and the shitty speeds. The Shareaza bridge sucks big time and only frustrate users by giving the illusion they can get stuff while they can't. Stop lying please. That's pathetic among the Raza users.

I mean, get real and welcome to real world

Sorry to sound frustrated jlh, but man SOME don't get it, even if I know you are far from being a newbie. The RAZA app really creates a reality distortion field...

jlh · #40 (**permalink**) July 27th, 2005

Well, this is your opinion. I have mine, which is a different one and for me it's not lying. Obviously we don't agree.

I don't think it's worth starting a discussion about this here, unless you feel it's necessary.

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