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That sounds an awful lot like superstition. Superspies from the NSA are not going to
step in on every little case and save the day. People who download a single file by
accident are never going to warrant the huge expense of an attempt, and such
attempts frequently fail if secure deletion software is used.

Besides, people who collect illegal porn apparently collect a lot of it and don't delete
it, so the point is effectively moot. The guys who get caught always have a lot of it,
so imaginary super-CSI wizardry isn't necessary.
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its NOT imaginary d00d...not at all...

take the time to pull out a vinyl disc and notice how you can hear 'cross talk' before the tune begins....think about it...then think about how one could (and it IS done) pull data off of the ridges of the disc...yep...that is how it is done...

if you choose the believe otherwise, then do so...but you are wrong...
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It's different on magnetic media. A secure delete routine throws enough noise at it to clean up
the edges too, which is why they run so many passes. What you're talking about is roughly
analogous to having never tried a secure wipe at all, which on vinyl would be like scraping out
the grooves so that even the crosstalk is gone.

At that point maybe Ensign Kim could recover something with a tricorder and some Borg
technology but probably not, since he's out of town and the Borg stuff is really expensive.
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uh huh...well that was a simile to direct you to a thought process that obviously went over (or perhaps under) your head....why do you think military spy planes have self destruct devices on their data recorders???? again, believe whatever you will, but you are wrong...
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For the people that do collect illegal porn. They need help. For the people that make it they need to be hung. I don't care what it is you have on your hard drive If you don't want to be seen, tax returns or pictures of your wife. The only sure way is to smash it into dust. I don't care what software you buy The FBI can undo it.

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Once again I will repeat it. The Star Trek technology you are thinking about is far far too
expensive to be used on insignificantly small cases like somebody downloading something by
accident and immediately deleting it. There is no way in any circumstance that the most
expensive scanning tunnelling electron microscope technique is ever, under any circumstance,
going to be used on anything less than a national security matter, period, end of sentence.

If you're not spreading anthrax around D.C. or mailing a hard drive full of uranium enrichment
info to China, a military standard DOD 5220.22 secure wipe that most secure delete software
is capable of is more than sufficient to make it effectively impossible for the FBI to cope
with or afford.

They're still using AnaDisk, for crying out loud. Do you know how old that puppy is?

For the few that accidentally download something a simple delete followed by
defragging the drive is more than enough to put their minds at ease. To think
otherwise is to be superstitious and to tell people otherwise is sensationalism for
the sake of self entertainment.
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Hi guys, iam glad to join this forum, but its for reasons that i never thought would happen to me. I need serious advice of what to do.

Iam a big fan of limewire, love the fact that i can download all my fav songs so i will always use it.
But last year when i discovered that you could download porn on limewire, some sickening images of child abuse came with it. I had highlighted the search results to save time looking through each individual file, i was about to have an empty house so i thought i would get prepared lol. Anyway after highlighting then pressing enter, all the highlighted porn files started downloading.
Good so far.
After ten minutes of scrolling the internet i returned to limewire, and was shocked and disgusted to find what i did. Quite a few pics had been downloaded with titles that suggested it was child porn. Straight away i felt instantly sick and a cold feeling filled my body. Quickly i stopped downloading everything, deleted all my dowloaded files and switched off the pc. I started to think the police would be at my door in a matter of minutes.

The next day i decided to go back on and make sure all of the filth was deleted from my limewire. I then discovered i could type in keywords to block such files, and thats what i did. I thought if i typed in words such as kid and child, the chance of it happening again would be nil, so thats what i did.
I continued to download porn from limewire, thinking that only Adult porn was being downloaded as i had blocked out files with the words kid and child in them. But this was not the case. A couple of times the filth had been downloaded again and as i did before, i deleted them as soon as i found them. This then prompted me to stop downloading all porn from limewire, which i perhaps should have done before. In the keywords box i typed in all sexually related words i could think of to make sure of this

Ever since then i have been living in fear that the police will be at my door soon. Iam 16 now, was 15 when it happened and as you can imagine i have been mentally exhausted by this. Everytime i see police in my street, i think they are here for me, and sometimes i actually wanted to approach them and inform them of what had happened, but i didnt have the balls. It has been my dream to work in the police since i was a little boy, and child porn is something that absolutely sickens me.

My question is what should i do? Iam leaving school, want to join the police soon as possible, but i just couldn't do it knowing that i haven't reported what i accidentally downloaded. Iam scared that if i do tell the police, they will instantly suspect me of being a sick pedophile b*****d, which is something that iam not. Also, still being at school, Iam terrified that if i did report it, people at school would label me as a pedo and i would have the **** kicked out of me. I have came close before to telling my mum, but again iam scared in case she wouldn't believe me, even though i know she probably would.

So how should i report this. if i was ever even suspected of being a pedo, i honestly would consider suicide, thats how worried and depressed iam.

Please give me advice guys.
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The screwed up laws make it dangerous to report it, so better not.

Use an eraser to erase all free space on the harddrive, then defragment and do the same thing over again.

If you want porn then use other sources that are better kept control of. The Gnutella network isn't being monitored as to what can and can't be shared. If it was then it would fast be no porn, no movies, no music and no nothing.
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The screwed up laws make it dangerous to report it, so better not.

Use an eraser to erase all free space on the harddrive, then defragment and do the same thing over again.

If you want porn then use other sources that are better kept control of. The Gnutella network isn't being monitored as to what can and can't be shared. If it was then it would fast be no porn, no movies, no music and no nothing.
Thanks for the advice. Thing is though its a family computer, so would they find out if i erased free space and defragged?
Also the filth that was downloaded wasn't shared, i have never shared any files. Does that make a difference?
I dream of a career of busting people like pedophiles in the police, so to think i could be labeled as one is driving me crazy.
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