I tried Audion. It played the item but to convert it to another format would have taken forever. It also did something weird to my iPod. It looked like I dragged and dropped the book into the iPod. The window showed some action. When I checked the iPod, not only did it not xfer, it removed the track names from a good number of items already there. The info was actually still there. It just had to be reminded by a line by line review.

IOW, I think I'll pass on Audion. I'm really not technically oriented and these programs seem to be beyond me.

Thanks anyway.

PS. Sorry for the delay in replying. I lost my ISP. Checking into switching to cable rather than DSL. AT&T is not very supportive of Mac.