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rubaiyat February 24th, 2004 10:21 AM

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Originally posted by Morgwen
Your logic is false mine not. Limewire canīt be faster than other Gnutella clients because they all use the same protocol. So all clients are almost as fast/slow as Limewire ergo Gnutella has to be slow, this is fact not false. You really should read how Gnutella works before you share your wisdom with us...

Morgwen

Again you have come to this conclusion yourself, then ascribed it to me. I did not blame Gnutella (frankly I don't care what LimeWire runs on). I might guess Gnutella might be to blame, but I don't know this for a fact.

I can however observe that while acquisition and acqlite are not speed demons they do however finish more files than LW and seem to pick up unfinished files and continue them more often than LW does.

rubaiyat February 24th, 2004 10:28 AM

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Originally posted by Morgwen
No, I read what I see not what is in your head...

Morgwen

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(for the obtuse I have run LW, P, acqlite, acquisition, Carracho, Hotline etc both together and separately over a protracted period of time)
This was only the last time I repeated myself.

Morgwen February 24th, 2004 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by rubaiyat
I did not blame Gnutella (frankly I don't care what LimeWire runs on). I might guess Gnutella might be to blame, but I don't know this for a fact.
You have to care on which network Limewire runs, its VERY important when we are talking about speed.

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I can however observe that while acquisition and acqlite are not speed demons they do however finish more files than LW and seem to pick up unfinished files and continue them more often than LW does.
I donīt know acqlite. Acpuisation is also running on Gnutella and is based on Limewire... as I explained you Gnutella is p2p you are never able to connect to the whole network only a small part of it. One part can be faster than an the other. Especially when you try to download rare files the results can be very different, also you can be out of luck... unless you didnīt test it for at least a few weeks with every client with the same files, you could not say which client is faster, after this you will see the average should be the same becasue they are running on the same network.

Morgwen

ursula February 24th, 2004 10:41 AM

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Originally posted by Morgwen
... 256kbs this is 32kb right?
Not really, Morgwen.

But, the 'real world reality' supports your comments even more .

On planet Earth a so-called '256kbs' connection is going to result in a max of 27.6 - 27.3 kBs ...

And, that is with a 'tailwind' !!!

The biggest 'pump' in the world is NOT going to increase the 'flow' through a small pipe.

rubaiyat February 24th, 2004 10:48 AM

I only care what network i am on as far as the content it contains and, Guess what?, I am searching for the same material over and over and have been doing so for months.

I have only just discovered Poisoned & xNap in the last 2 weeks and already DLed vastly more than I have with LimeWire in the last few years.

acqlite is another LimeWire derived client. I have also used bitTorrent and Carracho extensively but they don't permit detailed searches.

Let's get down to what remains a constant. The hardware, network and OS. Poisoned performs substantially better than LimeWire for me and others but you don't want me to say so. even though Poisoned is a Gnutella client too.

rubaiyat February 24th, 2004 10:55 AM

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Originally posted by ursula
Not really, Morgwen.

But, the 'real world reality' supports your comments even more .

On planet Earth a so-called '256kbs' connection is going to result in a max of 27.6 - 27.3 kBs ...

And, that is with a 'tailwind' !!!

The biggest 'pump' in the world is NOT going to increase the 'flow' through a small pipe.

Ursula you are speaking at a tangent again. LimeWire on its own, with no competing network client on my machine, only gets 2-5k max mostly less. And that in very occassional fits and starts, never sticking on a file to complete the DL in one go.

Poisoned completes its DLs in one go about 80% of the time, often peaking at max transfer speeds of 27-28k. The rest it picks up and finishes after one or 2 tries. I can only dream of LW managing a fraction of this.

ursula February 24th, 2004 11:19 AM

Re: '256' = 27.3
 
No tangent.

Post directed to Morgwen.

Stated fact. Fact stated related to connection 'performance'.


You have, unless I missed it, not said whether or not you are able to use Poisoned accessing the Gnutella Network ONLY.

That may be of interest to others.
It may even constitute a legitimate comparison.

Many of us have been through all this stuff before with AudioGalaxy and, and, and and... Unless one truly undertsnads the nature of the NETWORK being used, it is not possible to compare clients.

'Blanket' statements are of little value.
All factors must be considered over an adequate evaluation period.

See the post here regarding 'finding' 149 so-called 'spyware' elements... All blamed on LimeWire when in fact the poster was using a garbage toy to 'find' the 'spyware'.

Foot-In-Mouth disease is rampant at times !

rubaiyat, the solar-flux levels being emitted from thine possibly bifurcated latex-solar-beef rectal orifice are diminishing.
:rolleyes:

Morgwen February 24th, 2004 11:26 AM

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Originally posted by ursula
Not really, Morgwen.

But, the 'real world reality' supports your comments even more .

On planet Earth a so-called '256kbs' connection is going to result in a max of 27.6 - 27.3 kBs ...

I am not sure if you are now ironic. :confused:

But you are right its not 32kb it is 31,25kb:

8bit = 1byte
1024 bytes = 1kilobyte
1kb = 8192 bits
256000 bits/256kbits = 31,25kb

At least in my world...

Morgwen

ursula February 24th, 2004 11:32 AM

ping !!!!!!!!


That is why I said, 'Real World'...

Yes on the mathematics...
No on the 'delivered reality'

OK, you big sexy 'silver dragon' ? :p

Morgwen February 24th, 2004 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by ursula
Yes on the mathematics...
No on the 'delivered reality'

In both worlds, you forget the search traffic.

Morgwen


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