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Old February 24th, 2004
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A comment on "speed"....it is relative...and also download speeds a very dependant upon the signal you send back to the supplier that indicates you got the packets sent...if your upstream is maxed out, you will not have enough bandwidth to efficiently communicate with the supplier, and the next packet will not be sent...i.e., your speeds will suffer...are you maxing out your connection rubaiyat ????...I know I can very easily, and my speeds are way above yours (350KB/s down, 45 KB/s up)...
Have you noted my bandwidth at all? You haven't said yours but obviously it is greater than mine.

Also note that Poisoned achieves max bandwidth without my having to fiddle with settings. A few ther posters have experienced the same.

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[i]just because you think there are no viruses/worms/etc. for Macs means nothing...I'll bet a dollar to your dime that there are plenty, not nearly as many as for Windoze (supply/demand, popularity, shear number of users, etc....), but they still exist, and will become more prevalent as Macs gain more of a user base...[/B]
"I'll bet", again now that you have "bet"... it is a fact.

Name one! Just because it is natural on your OS you presume the same for mine. I field stacks of the nasties most days. My Mac actually protects my PC.

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[i]also, a thought on your favorite little client...it scans Gnutella and other networks eh???? does it also share to them ??(methinks not, and this is a phenomenom among certain p2p clients which has become rather popular as of late...I call it LEECHING...the type of leeching that has big ugly teeth, and should be dealt with appropriately) [/B]
Methinks not at all. Then me immediately presumes, then me immediately declares that a fact because me has not even asked. Me being like most of the posters here.

Yes Poisoned shares and shares at a far greater pace than it DLs. I am well aware of the etiguette. If you had bothered reading my original post in this thread you would have seen that.

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[i]oh, as an afterthought...I used LW last night (newest Pro version...) and had a total download speed of about 120 KB/s going, and was also using Direct Connect (oDC is my client) and was uploading to 3 ppl with a total BW use of around 25KB/s, downloading at about 70KB/s and still had the bandwidth to supply users on Gnutella...then again, I'm a Windoze user...maybe that's why I have no speed issues? [/B]
Again bandwidth. I agree the experience of PC users vs Mac users is eminently different... with LimeWire. Poisoned seems to deliver as much as the bandwidth allows. Ipso Facto it is not the HW/OS and therefore it comes back to LW not working as well on my set-up as yours. What is different on mine? Well the OS, the bandwidth, my location and my ISP (tho I have tried several).

I am constantly accused of not detailing my set-up. Mostly I am not given the chance, since the argument constantly revolves around whether I can even speak, or my intelligence, or the like.

Those achieving the high transfer should state their OS, HW, location, physical network, whether they have a default installation, their settings, whether they have to fiddle with ports or strike special deals with their ISPs.

Then at last we may have something to compare. For those who have not been paying attention mine is:

Mac OS 10.3.2 or 10.2.8 on a Mac G4 400Mhz AGP with 1.25Gb RAM, I am downunder, I access my ISP via VDSL using PPPoE (10/100), default installation, Firewall is off, I have not fiddled with my ports, my ISP says it has nothing blocking Gnutella (whether this is true I can't say).

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Peerless--I couldn't find the fairly recent post on slashdot that repeated the claim that there were "no, none, zip, nada" viruses written for OSX, 60-some for OS 9 and Linux each, but I did manage to find a repeat of the usual "Nyeah nyeah OSX has no viruses" kind of discussion on http://www.undergroundmac.com/forums...pic=2420&st=20 , where one poster claimed to have found a couple. That was interesting, since the only other one I'd heard about was at http://macbuyersguide.com/solutions/security/ ., contained in a 30.5 KB file called "DVD studio pro 2 [k].sit." I have tried to search for it several times on LimeWire with no 'luck'--maybe Poisoned can be more successful.

I agree with you about the leeching, and so does the developer (Julian Ashton) http://www.slyck.com/news.php?story=330

btw Ursula, I was not doing anything illegal by downloading those music files for my own personal use, but it would have been an copyright infringement to share them. http://www.canfli.org/modules.php?op...es&id_cat=2#28

rubaiyat, go to http://magnetdb.ath.cx/viewtopic.php?t=16 and download my magnet (it's just a 2MB .jpg). Let me know what kind of speeds you get and maybe we can get some decent info on what the problem is.
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2 other points:

I am not sharing apps, just documents so I am fulfilling my etiquette re viruses.

Poisoned has the ability to filter based on networks and in the preferences I can choose which networks to connect and search. They are all currently selected for searching and connecting. Why would I want to see less?

Interesting would be for anyone else who has OSX and gets good LimeWire transfers to:

1. Outline what they have done to achieve this, if anything

2. Compare with Poisoned on their set-up and feed back their relative performance.
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Thanks Stief.

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Peerless--I couldn't find the fairly recent post on slashdot that repeated the claim that there were "no, none, zip, nada" viruses written for OSX, 60-some for OS 9 and Linux each, but I did manage to find a repeat of the usual "Nyeah nyeah OSX has no viruses" kind of discussion on http://www.undergroundmac.com/forums...pic=2420&st=20 , where one poster claimed to have found a couple. That was interesting, since the only other one I'd heard about was at http://macbuyersguide.com/solutions/security/ ., contained in a 30.5 KB file called "DVD studio pro 2 [k].sit." I have tried to search for it several times on LimeWire with no 'luck'--maybe Poisoned can be more successful.
I don't like the "Nyah Nyah..." stupidity either but on the other hand I don't like PC users making out we have the problem too, when we don't! Gives them some false consolation I guess.

As you can see by my reference even the vendors of Anti-Virus s'ware concede that. Yes we can get M$ macro viruses, but there is a simple way to avoid those.

btw "Why aren't there as many programs for the Mac as the PC? A Because we don't count viruses" s:-)

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rubaiyat, go to http://magnetdb.ath.cx/viewtopic.php?t=16 and download my magnet (it's just a 2MB .jpg). Let me know what kind of speeds you get and maybe we can get some decent info on what the problem is.
I'll keep trying but on this attempt it said "Need more sources" and nothing DLed.

Whilst I was in LW I checked the ULs and they are going at a healthy and steady 5 files @ 1-2k ea (I am still running both Poisoned and acqlite).
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OSX is bound to get viruses, and when they hit, we'll be so inexperienced and Peerless will help, so don't go bashing.

I'm trying the newest beta, and it looks like a magnet request triggers a NPE--took me forever to discard the bug reports. How many times did you click the magnet? I probably formatted the magnet incorrectly. Interesting that it showed as "Need more sources" at your end.

Just try a regular search for "MagBay.jpg"

This won't be fair --you're running too many connections--but will be a start.
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Thanks Peerless--I didn't know of that link. It brings back lots of memories (mostly old OS 9), but I can't see any OSX ones there.
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Thanks stief you have been fantastic.

First time I have been told anything, instead of just being blamed. Helps that you know what you are talking about.

I'll pursue what we have discussed further in Panther and see if it effects anything there.
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well--you were rightly blamed when you raised all the hackles, and you were treated pretty well. There's no decent way to fairly compare clients yet, since there are so many variables. The whole p2p project is dynamic and changing, so last week's comparisons are probably going to be different next week.

Get to know the experts--they all know more than me, and many are open source coders who freely contribute their skills and help if you ask a decent question. See http://www.limewire.org/

Anyway--we all contibute what we can. How about you answer the next "X is better than Y" poster next weekend?

cheers. Thanks for helping me figure out that LW 3.6.8 was choking on the magnet.
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How about you answer the next "X is better than Y" poster next weekend?
Unfortunately my answer still won't be LimeWire. All we established was the latest release can DL faster. I am still in the position of most files barely trickling through. Your file ran fast but nothing much else has.

My consolation is that now it works a bit more like acqlite and at least finishes some files, I just have to be patient.



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First time I have been told anything, instead of just being blamed.
When I review the thread, many people told you the possible reasons but you didnīt listen.

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