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View Poll Results: Which client do you like best?
BearShare 13 17.11%
LimeWire 27 35.53%
Gnucleus 16 21.05%
MyNapster 0 0%
Gnotella 8 10.53%
PHEX 12 15.79%
Voters: 76. You may not vote on this poll

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Old July 21st, 2001
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Accuracy aside... I think its safe to say that...

1) BearShare
2) LimeWire
3) Gnotella
4) Gnucleus
5) MyNapster
6) Phex

From my own data LimeWire was close to but never surpassed BearShare and also from my own data at one point LimeWire and Gnotella were the same, but in others it showed LimeWire ahead, so its more likely limewire is more popular.

Phex and MyNap appear to be to close... the accuracy issue comes into play... from my own information they are tied, from yours it appears MyNapster is more popular, seeing as that is the case, I would say MyNapster is more likely more popular then Phex.

I did a download test like I said I was (downloading mostly mp3s of diffrent kinds of music and audio, and 1 avis) and the results only showed up for 3 clients (BearShare, LimeWire, Gnucleus), but this was only out of 14 connections (14 diffrent IPs, and 11 successful downloads many of which were in a short period of time)... and the results were similar to my earlier results showing LimeWire much more closesly to BearShare, but like I said this is only out of 14. (I need to free up some hard drive space now )
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Old July 22nd, 2001
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If you could somehow record the ip and the client used when you do a search, you could get the data about what client people who share files tend to use.
But, you would probably have to design a pseudo client that adds the information to a database for you to do that....
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Old July 22nd, 2001
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Lightbulb Ok, I'll do it =)

If you could somehow record the ip and the client used when you do a search, you could get the data about what client people who share files tend to use.


I can do this fairly easily... I'll have this code running within a day or 2. I've been hacking around with the Gnucleus code for the past week or so and I've already added a mySQL database interface to it.

I originally added this interface to store statistics on query packets so I could detect a bot thats been scanning me which has resulted in me and my isp getting threatening letters from DCMA - Mediaforce. I plan on detecting the IP addresses they scan from and making these addresses public information so we can all block connect requests from these pricks... but more on that later.

Anyways, I just stumbled in here and read this thread and thought I could help. If anyone is interested, I can make my new IP/client logger version of Gnucleus available to anyone who wants to run it and feed data into a mySQL database. Then I'll publish the results weekly or whenever.

Let me know if anyone wants this
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Old July 22nd, 2001
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A tool that collects info about the clients that share would be cool! I'm using BearShare, and there you can log those who download from you.
Out of the 3584 Distinct IPs that've downloaded from me the last three weeks,
45% had BearShare
41% had LimeWire
6% had Gnotella
4% had Gnucleus
3% had MyNapster

I'm sorry to say, but I would've voted in favour of BearShare.
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Yes, please make your IP logger version available to everyone.
I would be very interested in using it and it would be a good way to make those statistics all are talking about in this thread.
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Old July 22nd, 2001
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Arrow A post from BearShare.Net

Quote:
Originally posted by stigeide
17.4 Giga worth of uploads analyzed
07-22-2001 10:57 AM
I've looked at the uploads statistics from my bs-sessions the last month and here are some numbers from it:

The period is 3. to 22. July.
I'm sharing 10 Gb MP3 and 100 child-porn-pictures. The Pics are not really childPorn, but the names of them suggest that they are. I just put them there to annoy those who download it... (Please, don't start a discussion of this here)
My upstream line is a 512 Kbps (bits, that is) DSL.

The HTTP Return Codes:
51% of the return codes were '200 OK'
47% were '503 Service Unavailable'
HTTP Return Code 200 (OK) pr Client:
BearShare: 59%
LimeWire: 54%
Gnotella: 26%
Gnucleus: 49%
MyNapster: 62%

The Clients:
Out of the 3584 Distinct IPs,
45% had BearShare (but 44% of the bytes went to them)
41% had LimeWire (but 33% of the bytes went to them)
6% had Gnotella (but 11% of the bytes went to them)
4% had Gnucleus (but 6% of the bytes went to them)
3% had MyNapster (and 3% of the bytes went to them)
The rest were less than 1% or unknown

The Content:
49% of the successful uploads were 'Porn', the rest MP3.
But only 1% of the successfully uploaded bytes were Porn. That is ofCourse because the Porn files I shared were pics (wich are ~2% the sice of a MP3).
Percentage of Porn requested pr Client:
BearShare: 50%
LimeWire: 45%
Gnotella: 25%
Gnucleus: 65%
MyNapster: 70%


Last edited by stigeide on 07-22-2001 at 11:06 AM
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Old July 22nd, 2001
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Default Re: A post from BearShare.Net

Quote:
Originally posted by stigeide
Percentage of Porn requested pr Client:
BearShare: 50%
LimeWire: 45%
Gnotella: 25%
Gnucleus: 65%
MyNapster: 70%
Ok lets see here 50+45+25+65+70=210 hum... interesting.
Isn't this supposed to add up 100% not 210%?
Am I missing something?
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Old July 22nd, 2001
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Default Yep...

Percentage of Requests that Were for Porn... (as opposed to mp3s...) broken down by client
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Old July 22nd, 2001
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I'm sorry to say, but I would've voted in favour of BearShare.
I'm not sure what you mean exactly, but just in case, the poll above is about the most popular at gnutella forums (hence the poll question "what is your favorite" and only registered users vote), not the the gnutella network. Either way it sounds like you would have voted for BearShare, but I am just making sure other people understand the poll here.
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zeroshadow, think of it as 50% of BearShare clients wanted porn... not 50% of the total clients that wanted porn were BearShare.
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