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Old September 24th, 2003
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Default Veritas

That's what I thought.

I knew that you and Naked Truth would both crumple in the face of the truth.

For me, this exchange is over.

-streamOG
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Quote:
Originally posted by streamOG
I knew that you and Naked Truth would both crumple in the face of the truth.
What is truth?

Is truth what you say?

Is truth what naked truth say?

Is truth what I say?

Or is truth what the people belive?

Think about this.

Over and out.

Morgwen
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Old September 24th, 2003
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The truth is what is not what is said.
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Old September 24th, 2003
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Quote:
Originally posted by streamOG
Again your wrong. I never worked at MSN or ZeroPaid for 3 years. If you read my bio you would know this.

I met Hedge and Jorge last year during the summer and was associated with them for about 6 months. Again your Naked and your posting is full of lies.

And your wrong about P2P experts not speaking about DRM publicly or working to monetize P2P networks. Take a look at www.joltid.com They use Microsoft's DRM product and they INVENTED KAZAA. Do you have a reply to this?

You probably don't know this but the media and entertainment and adult industries are coming to P2P experts in DROVES to figure out how to monetize P2P networks.

FOR EXAMPLE: Jorge from ZeroPaid designed the DRM system that BuyMusic.com uses after he saw the DRM code from my previous company DRM Networks.

If YOU were smart you would figure out how to monetize P2P too or would you just spend the rest of your life stealing from people you don't know?
You did do work for MSN and that is where you met Chris Hedgecock over 4 years ago.

You LIE when you say you met them "Last Spring". You lie so much and then you and Chris cover everything up, contacting webmasters and telling them to take your names off of rousters.

Here is some SMALL proof that you met Chris way before "Last Spring" when both of you spoke at a convention together.

http://www.broadcast.net/pipermail/w...ay/042528.html

Go ahead and contact them as well so they can take it down. Might I add that is from MAY 22, 2002 when you spoke together.

Everybody in your industry is talking about you Chris. Shut up while you are at it.

Thank you for confirming that Jorge is also involved in DRM. He has denied it before, and now you have confirmed it.

The media networks are tired of P2P networks, and you are the one who offers them DRM solutions to "monetize" the P2P networks.

You want to infest the great P2P networks like Gnutella, ES5, and others with your DRM software so that people will spend a full day waiting for a download only to realize it includes a plugin that requires we pay for the media.

Go get your own network. Why do this to other peoples networks? Because you want to make money off of P2Pr's.

You are worst then spyware. Each DRM solution of yours makes it so the media giants whos software and movies we download include plugins that open an INBOUND / OUTBOUND port that allows you to control our home computers.

Everybody knows that the RIAA has been using your DRM technology with music and they can hack into our computers or even shut them off by just using a simple media. Until now, nobody thought it was possible. On ZP, you have everybody convinced that the recent articles about this printed all over the internet are lies.

You want as many computers as possible infected so that you have "POWER" and that programmers dont use techniques to detect and clean it off of their computers.

I know all about you Chris, I have done the research, called all of your friends, and just so you know, I am not only a war vet, but also a part time investigative journalist for the THE TORONTO TIMES.

I will say again, EVERYBODY BAN DRM, and BAN ZEROPAID.COM.
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Old September 24th, 2003
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I worked at MSN?? REALLY? That's news to me. Oh and guess what I DIDN"T GO TO EAT'M. I sent Chrish because I was sick.

Again your wrong. Your lying. Accept it.

Your out of your mind.
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Old September 24th, 2003
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Not only did you appear on May 22, 2002, you also appeared on May 23, 2002.

I thought you said you didnt know Chris back 18 months ago, in May 2002, so how did you send him if you were sick?

Also, I didnt say you worked at MSN, rather you worked FOR MSN on contract. Dont bullshit people with semantics and linquistics.

Here, another source from the great open web that you love to moderate. Thats right, contact the webmaster and tell him to take it down.

http://www.lasvegasmercury.com/2002/.../18786882.html

Quote:
streamOS was used by MSN to WebCast Madonna to 9 Million viewers making it the largest WebCast in history.
This comes from your original biography. Dont deny it, I have it on backup.

(BTW, I HAVE ON BACKUP ALL OF YOUR MATERIAL SO YOU CAN TAKE IT DOWN, AND I PUT IT RIGHT BACK UP ON USENET DISCUSSIONS!)

BTW, I love the way you changed your biography. Very interesting...

Chris, this isnt ZP, you cant moderate Gnutella. They see right through your bullshit. You thought you could "moderate" me by contacting SharePro from ES5 and now you want to do it here.

I will ruin you Chris and your teen tabloid ZP. STOP LYING!

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Old September 24th, 2003
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NO. again your confusing the facts. I said I have not worked with ZeroPaid in six months.

Dude your obviously off your **** or something. I never went to EAT'M. Trust me I wasn't there. I would tell you if I was. Why would I hide from that? I wouldn't.

OK one more time I have nothing to do with ZeroPaid and haven't for quite some while. You can back up my whole life story. I had it changed becuase to be honest I had forgotten about that site and that bio and it was quite old.

Put your money where your mouth is and show me your "PROOF" naked truth. Do it here for everyone to see. So far all you have done is make allegations.

Your not going to ruin anyone but yourself guy.

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Kath,

it doesn´t matter if they had a fallout. Read the statements from streamOG/Chriopher Levy on es5. He is confirming that Jorge and Chris H. are working or worked with these companies, he is only argueing about details.

I ilke UTC but they should investigate before they ban a user who tries to point this out. I am investigating this at the moment and I tend to believe es5, I don´t believe the whole story BUT I SURE believe what Christopher Levy confirmed and this is enough to hate zeropaid.

Morgwen
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P.S.:

Send them the link. And tell them they should read the posts especially these from Jorge, Chris H., Chris L. and sharepro. After this they can claim who is right or not.
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Old September 24th, 2003
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The reality is there. You can limit this conversation, change websites that document your connections, and do whats necessary to hide your connection to ZP.

In reality Chris, you are a millionaire who made money creating DRM products that are to be used against P2Pr's.

In reality, Zeropaid.com makes NO MONEY. So why would a millionaire like yourself be involved with a P2P forum that makes no money and since P2P is against DRM, what is your agenda?

I will tell you straight out. You use the information to gather details on P2Pr's so that you can use it against us.

Also, you said that you were involved with EMPIRE DRM. You also said that you only met Chris Hedgecock "last Spring".

http://www.streamingmedia.com/press/view.asp?id=1621

Quote:
In addition, EmpireDRM’s Christopher Levy and Chris Hedgecock will be featured speakers at Internext- Expo, January 6-8, 2003, Sands Convention Expo, Las Vegas, NV. Levy and Hedgecock will lead discussions on DRM and P2P technologies as well as new media revenue opportunities for 2003. http://www.internet-expo.com

About EmpireDRM
EmpireDRM is a leading provider of Digital Rights Management Solutions via Dominion™, a suite of tools designed to offer content creators a broader range of options to monetize and deliver their digital media assets. EmpireDRM allows control over content access, tracks user habits, and reduces the threat of
theft and misuse. EmpireDRM was founded in 2001 and is based out of San Diego, CA. www.empiredrm.com
Empire DRM was founded in 2001, where Chris Hedgecock and Chris Levy both were employed as President, and Exec. Vice President. All this time, both of them controlled Zeropaid.com which came into existance in 1999. So again, DRM and Zeropaid are one and the same.

We are now at the end of September 2003. Last Spring was 6 months ago. Here, explain how both YOU and EXECUTIVE VICE PRESIDENT OF EMPIRE DRM, MR. CHRISTOPHER HEDGECOCK - the "owner" of Zeropaid.com, together owned EMPIRE DRM back in January 2, 2003. That was 6 monts prior to last Spring! That article was printed after both of you had an established company called EMPIRE DRM, so dont have us all believe you met the same day they wrote the article.

So again, I point out that you know Chris Hedgecock from several years ago, and you casually deny being at 2 different gatherings that your name clearly appears on (which are posted on 2 different websites)

Now, go to EMPIRE DRM or STREAMING VIDEO website and get your name out of their as well. Clean up your tracks buddy.

Wait...Before you go, remember one thing. I am not going to run after you. I am going directly to your clients and I am going to cause you holy hell. Your a disgrace and have no place in our P2P community.
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