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Old April 15th, 2006
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Before going on vacation I had 2 LW crashes of which I could save one error message. While consulting about some other problem at a different thread ( http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...=27036&page=14 ) I was adviced to post here to ask for some input.

My errror message was/is: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/attach...9&d=1144607534

I also experience some crashes with Fire Fox browser, sometimes when posting at forums and lately after the virus attachment scan from hotmail when forwarding mails. I'm not sure whether both things are connected in any way. However, I would appreciate if someone could look into the error message and give me some advice. If any further datas will be necessary, let me know and I'll try to get them with the little amount of computer knowledge I have...

I was able to reproduce the FF crash and saved that bug report as well, if it is of any help for the one who might be able to look at it.

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Yeah, the reason both problems are happening may be the same. What that reason is, I don't know. LimeWire's reporting that it's unable to create a new thread, and FireFox may also be running into the same problem (but handling it less gracefully). Fortunately (for LimeWire, atleast) we've spent the past month+ working on reducing the number of extra threads needed for the program to run. The next beta should be using a single thread for all connections, downloads, maybe uploads, and a host of other things.
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Yeah, the reason both problems are happening may be the same. What that reason is, I don't know. LimeWire's reporting that it's unable to create a new thread, and FireFox may also be running into the same problem (but handling it less gracefully). Fortunately (for LimeWire, atleast) we've spent the past month+ working on reducing the number of extra threads needed for the program to run. The next beta should be using a single thread for all connections, downloads, maybe uploads, and a host of other things.
Which means I've to live with it for now and wait until the next beta is released ?!
Thanks for your input pal
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Well, sorta. You could try and figure out what's preventing your machine from letting a new thread be created. It might be a shortage of RAM, or there's another program running that is using up a lot of memory. I'm not really an expert on Windows internals, so I don't really know what to look for in causing the problem. It is a pretty bad problem though and can have all kinds of weird/ugly consequences in various programs.
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Well, sorta. You could try and figure out what's preventing your machine from letting a new thread be created. It might be a shortage of RAM, or there's another program running that is using up a lot of memory. I'm not really an expert on Windows internals, so I don't really know what to look for in causing the problem. It is a pretty bad problem though and can have all kinds of weird/ugly consequences in various programs.
Hmm, thanks for this statement. Lets me think whether my BOINC client crushing SETI, Einstein, LHC and climate@home datas on "always run" may have that specific impact. Because I actually thought with 1.024GB Ram I should be on the save side. Upgrading to 2GB Ram might be a solution (or more, if that would be technically possible). Do you think that this also might have an effect on my download speed with LW? Maybe that LW runs out of ram source when sending data portions forth and back??
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Hrmph. 1GB of RAM should be enough, and the W2k limit on threads is really very high, so there's no good reason you should be running out of space. All those clients may be using a large amount, but I kinda doubt they'd be using up so much space that you wouldn't be able to create a new thread. Does this error occur often? If so, does it happen if you close your other programs? The error could have an effect on download speed with LW, as right now (in the released versions) it uses a different thread for each source it's downloading from, so if it can't create the thread then it can't download from that source (and can't swarm and raise the speeds as high as it should).
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Hrmph. 1GB of RAM should be enough, and the W2k limit on threads is really very high, so there's no good reason you should be running out of space. All those clients may be using a large amount, but I kinda doubt they'd be using up so much space that you wouldn't be able to create a new thread. Does this error occur often? If so, does it happen if you close your other programs? The error could have an effect on download speed with LW, as right now (in the released versions) it uses a different thread for each source it's downloading from, so if it can't create the thread then it can't download from that source (and can't swarm and raise the speeds as high as it should).
Well, the crashes do not happen that often, let's say every two or tree days once or twice. Since yesterday I've suspended ond closed Boinc. I'm at the moment in a fierce discussion with my ISP, from which I get quite contrary statements in regard to them shaping my bandwidth ranging from denying to confirming, to not being sure if this is being implemented according to their contract rules (I spent 2 hours on the phone yesterday, ending up with not more than I knew before). I'm wondering, is there any way I could measure or test whether they really are shaping my bandwidth? I've made some screen shots from my task manager and from LW but I am not really sure what the information there hint at. Would you mind taking a look at them??
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