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Sleepless June 5th, 2006 02:32 PM

How to find music (and videos) :)
 
Last updated 31/05 - 09 ___ (NOTE: this advice applies to VIDEOS also !)

If you have useful links to add or good advise regarding the topic feel free to send me a PM :) Remember to give a good description and point to this thread if you do.

Also please do not post a reply in this thread asking for help. It will most likely not be answered if you do. Make a new thread in the best fitting forum subsection instead.

As most know by now, Limewire LLC has been forcibly shut down, so there are no official updates anymore. Working versions new and old available here: LimeWire installers - Forum thread including download links

In case you run into trouble when trying to install Limewire or getting it to run, here are some fixes: Fixes for Limewire

Note: Limewire is no good for BitTorrent. If you want to download BitTorrent files, please do use a proper client intended for that purpose. I would recommend either getting Vuze - (Download Link) or µTorrent (Download Link) (both are free and very good)

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Before even starting here. Does your Limewire even work right? Try downloading a magnetlink from this site. They should start downloading at high speed if it works.

MagnetMix :) Click Me

(Only if you have trouble getting more than a few KB/s or you can't seem to get any files to actually start downloading)

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Trouble downloading something has two main reasons if properly connected

1. The license problem. If you can't seem to get any file to appear in the download window, this is most likely the problem

How to fix the license problem :) click Me

(Only if you suspect you have this problem)

2. Spam results, ads and malware which we will be taking a look at how to take care of here.

I have split this up into points mainly because of the many fixes and tips, that as a whole will make your experience using Limewire much better. There were many before you that had to learn this the hard way.

The links that say Click me are important and should be used in conjunction with the guide. The ones that say Information Link are not as important.

Before we get to the points on how to search, there are a few things that make it blatantly obvious that you are getting spam results

1. If you get thousands of results on a search just close the search window, because most likely not a single one of them is legit. This happens mainly with video but on occasion also with audio. This means that a word or sentence in your search phrase is a trigger for spam results

2. when you hover the mouse arrow over a result and the box popping up has a hyperlink in it. I don't mean eg. BlahBlah.com under comments. I mean eg.
Code:

http://www.blahblah.com
Now on to the fun stuff. Please read the whole post and follow the links. While reading point number two already makes it easier, the other points are also very important to really get good results on almost every single search you make. This is of course up to you, but don't come here complaining about spam if you don't read it all !!!

ways to recognise fake files :) Click Me

Another almost sure thing is if it says (New Single) or (Full Version) in the filename that's exactly what it's NOT

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The TechNutopia Fullsize Hostiles List

Before even starting to try and find god files, we need to block out as many bad files as possible. Limewire has the ability to use a IP blocklist and there is a good one available on TechNutopia, that gets updated several times a year. We need to add this list to Limewire. (This hostiles list is only compatible with LimeWire versions 4.13 to 4.18 and is not compatible with LimeWire 5 or Pirate Edition. LW 5 and LPE users can get a list here instead.)

Thread on how to do this - Click Me

I strongly suggest you bookmark it and check back regularly if you have the newest update.
Edit: Best to use the LimeWire Security Blocklist installers instead! Uses much less memory and more efficient. The Technutopia version may prevent your LW from even connecting.


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1. When doing A Search

When searching for music use the Audio-tab and not the All Files-tab. If you don't find what you're looking for then feel free to try the All Files-tab, but there is very rarely anything to be found which would not be found using the Audio-tab. ___ Advanced Search options sample image (click to see sample image)

Same goes for video, where you use the video-tab.

(note: If you try the All Files-tab add .mp3 or whatever format you're looking for.

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2. The Keyword Filter

Add .wma to the keyword filter along with words like Sponsored, Unlimited, Afford and any other specific words that keep popping up in your results.

How to add words to the keyword filter for LW 4 :) Click Me and LW 5 Keyword Filter

More words to add for both audio and video :) Click Me I really suggest you read this !!! - This post is updated whenever new words/terms start making trouble (A downloadable Notecard includes both those words & more: Direct instructions to eliminate porn & other marketing junk from results)

Autogenerated Spam results - Information Link

Sponsored Results - Information Link

Info about .wma files - Information Link (provided by Raaf)

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3. Search Keywords, This is NOT Google you are using!!

When searching for specific song. Do not search for both Artist- and Song name at the same time. This tends to bring up a lot of spam results often flooding the search so no legit results show. (Especially when searching for popular Artists). Instead try just searching for either the name of the Artist the Song or the Album.

Results that have (*) at the end, * being a number from 01 to 99, tend to be bad results. (Also especially true when searching for popular artists). There are some legit results that have the (*) at the end, but very few, and always a low number. This is when people download multiple files with the same file name and have Limewire just add a number at the end.

Another thing to try is mixing up the words e.g. Instead of looking for Up The Creek, look for Creek Up The etc. Any result that comes back with the title mixed up like you searched for... AVOID! The real file will show up in your results with the title words in the correct order. (Thanks to Locomule)

(note: When searching for rare or old recordings, this can be ignored as they rarely bring up spam, unless a new song has the same name. Thanks to Dreamtech)

Important:
Sometimes it is virtually impossible to find a legit result by using any of these methods because every phrase brings up spam instead. If this happens try to vary your phrases to maybe half the title or even one word in the title. Just exhaust every possibility. Even one word of the title and one part of the artists name may bring up the right result when all else fails.
(thanks to tanaeem for bringing this to my attention)

Newer versions of Limewire have a Get more results option. Even if you have bypassed some spam infested title by using the above advice, you can then right-click on the result you want and choose Get more results, without fear of triggering the spam again. This is especially handy when wanting high bitrate and the only result you find is low bitrate. You can also click on the searchtab that contains the results, which will bring up more results for everything in the results. You can do this as many times as you like, if not happy with the results.

What is bitrate? - Information Link

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4. Organize Your Search

Press the size column so that the largest files are at the top. The Higher the bitrate the more likely it's a good file. Also don't be taken by a lot of people sharing the same file. It does not mean that it's the best file. Unfortunately very few music files are rated at the Bitziweb-lookup, but feel free to try it. Some are. While there are not many audio files rated on Bitziweb, Almost all video worth downloading is, so use it if to avoid mislabeled, corrupt or just bad files, and look at all the comments, as sometimes people that have codec issues etc. will say good files are bad

How to use bitzi web lookup :) Click Me

BTW another Sticky is in this forum explaining more about this

Bitziweb is based on users contributing information on files, meaning you can start doing this also. By using the BitCollider available on the site (free) you can submit and rate files yourself. This will make the database grow even more.

Bitzi.com :) Click Me

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5. Spot The Fakes

Watch out for the small 134.4 KB files that all of a sudden pop up with a lot of hosts. (another good reason to rearrange according to size) Also make sure all audio files in search results show a bit-rate in the bit-rate column (if they show no bit-rate, they are not true audio files, ie: fakes.)

Autogenerated MP3 results - Information Link . and . Typical virus spam file sizes - Make a note of them

The mp3 spam 134 KB are very easily filtered out using the junk filter. Only 2 or 3 times (searches & junk filtering) & it's gone forever. eg: Search for something like oidhfhdjfjdjk.mp3 & that brings out the spam so you can filter it.

Just right-click on search result and mark as junk. Just don't be too trigger happy using this option as you will end up filtering good files as well. I personally don't feel the need to use the junk filter at all. In my mind it is far from perfect, and you have to be very careful when using it. I would recommend to keep the settings for it pretty relaxed. And if you start seeing files that you are sure are good turn up with high junk ratings, start over.

The settings for LW 4 for the filter can be found at Tools-->options-->Filters-->Junk. To reset it press Forget Training Data, then press Apply and OK
LW 5 users will find the reset Junk option at Tools-->options-->Search-->Search Filtering - Reset Spam Filter button.

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6. We All Want Quality, Right?

When looking for specific artists. Find a download that is good quality and downloadable. Try to browse the host that you are downloading from. They often have more than one song that you want. Also if you are downloading high bitrate there is a good chance they have many songs with high bitrate. People that are sharing 320 kbps are not likely to be downloading 128 kbps unless they have no choice.

To Browse Host - Right-Click on the file you're downloading or in the search result and choose Browse Host

note: when using the browse host feature. There are two reasons why you should not be too greedy and press several downloads that you want at the same time.

1. The host may go offline and you have several incomplete files for what might be a long time.

2. They might kill your downloads for being too greedy. If you send several requests for the same file the program might do it itself. (Banned Greedy Client: too many requests & that host is banned for the session until the uploader logs on again. Only the uploader will see this message in Upload window. Not the downloader whose downloads will simply show Stalled or similar message.)


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7. If in doubt scan every time !!!!

You have AntiVirus and other stuff on your computer. If not entirely sure about something, then SCAN BEFORE OPENING IT

Good luck with your downloading and I hope this helped a bit

Cheers


Sleepless


P.S. If interested in BitTorrent: More about BitTorrent (link)

terryt June 6th, 2006 07:07 AM

There is no foolproff way to use P2P so be careful

Your right i tend to get 100% on the audio files i have downloaded about 50 songs for a cd compilation and one song wasn't what it said it was.Thats not bad going really i just pr-view the songs and if it's not the song i want or not the right version i cancel.The main problem is videos i keep getting the dancing girl video or on images the congratulations you have won picture annoying but it is free what do you expect?.

Sleepless June 6th, 2006 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by terryt
There is no foolproff way to use P2P so be careful

Your right i tend to get 100% on the audio files i have downloaded about 50 songs for a cd compilation and one song wasn't what it said it was.Thats not bad going really i just pr-view the songs and if it's not the song i want or not the right version i cancel.The main problem is videos i keep getting the dancing girl video or on images the congratulations you have won picture annoying but it is free what do you expect?.

That's what Bitzi is for. Also look at filesize. Ain't familiar with the Dancing Girl video but if it is that widespread then I'm sure its on Bitzi.

In video it would be best to stick with .avi .mkv and mp4 files. Or on a few occations Mpg or Mpeg. The rest is 99% porn or currupt.

wondering why June 6th, 2006 06:17 PM

Good info Sleepless....;)

Sleepless June 24th, 2006 10:27 AM

For people that keep having their browserwindow opened to some musicsite...
 
There have been some posts on the forum regarding Napster ad other pay for music sites opening up when trying to download.

This issue should be fixed in the never versions of Limewire which are 4.12.3 and later

Get it here:

http://www.limewire.com/english/content/home.shtml

Pro customers use your personal downloadlink

anfield July 1st, 2006 04:46 PM

Filesize and Bitrate are the two most important things to check after the name of the song, once you work out what to look for such as putting your mouse over the song you want and wait for the properties to come up such as artist, album, duration, bitrate etc you shouldn't have any problems though once again nothing is fullproof.

Don't just dive in.

6_pac July 1st, 2006 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by anfield
Don't just dive in.

Ahh, but diving in is so much more fun;). You know, like **** the torpedos , full speed ahead sorta thing:D ;) :).

jetskiters August 3rd, 2006 06:05 PM

this thread is really helpful...since i search for music all the time on limewire...and those spam results are just sooo annoying!

bob202 August 5th, 2006 07:58 AM

Better results
 
Sounds like sound advice. But I have two issues to raise.

Lime wire says the more specific your search, the better your results, but I find that the more words I search on, the more garbage I get. Is there any way to search for a specific string rather than a bunch of separate words, any of which might return a result?

Also, I have noticed that often the results of a search have seemingly nothing to do with what I searched for - what's up with that?

garbagefan2 August 15th, 2006 07:49 AM

You can also add the _ symbol to block some spam results.

Dreamtech August 16th, 2006 06:05 PM

I think the only time you should use both artist and songname is if your after a particular song and multiple artists have a song with a similiar title or a cover version of the song, you are looking for. If you can't find the song via
artist or song title, then try album, and if your after a particular genre of course use "Genre" drop-down menu. But what happens if you can't find the song, or artist, or album??

There is more than one answer, maybe no one has ripped the songs, if so you or somone you know has a good copy on cd you could rip it yourself which would be the common sense thing to do. The other reason normally is to do with very rare releases, deleted items and of course import releases like an album might be available in Australia but hard to get in the US or UK and vice versa. And of course the final reason it's just not on cd, maybe 45'' or LP.

If you're after an a specific release but can't find anything...best advice:"do a google search", you find alot of information on some releases through the google search engine. Actually a number of good bands have certain releases which only have 500 or so copies worldwide - which means that the songs from that release are harder to find than your average easy to find releases. (the more popular the band the easier to find files & releases)

tanaeem August 25th, 2006 02:32 AM

try searching with half of artist name
 
When searching for an audio a good option is searching by first name or better still with last name of the artist with track name.
Another good thing is Title search found when right clicking some result under search more.

Sleepless August 25th, 2006 02:05 PM

(edit: This has been added in the guide after further testing. A bit modified)

tanaeem

I tried this often before and while it works sometimes, it usually does not work on popular artists, and when it works you would have got legit results when only using Artist or Songname. (The reason I did not include it in the guide)

This is in no way intended to say that people shouldn't try this. Only that it doesn't go in the guide.

Thanks for your input :)

tom_in_toronto September 1st, 2006 12:54 PM

There is an application called Peer Guardian that is supposed to weed out corrupt/fake/junk files. It checks for bad urls, and spyware. Its current incarnation is Peerguardian 2.

wondering why September 1st, 2006 01:23 PM

Sorry Tom I will have to correct you there...Peerguardian doesn't do what you have mentioned...
This is what Peerguardian is used for...

PeerGuardian is a tiny IP blocker program especially designed for P2P software users, but also to anyone who is concerned about the investigations that corporations and authorities perform on the internet. PeerGurdian blocks connections for the configured IP ranges and logs the blocked connections. It uses blocklists for the blocking, but IP ranges can also be configured manually. Pre-cofigured for blocking are RIAA, MPAA and many others.

A must have for a P2P user...

Lord of the Rings September 1st, 2006 03:16 PM

Peerguardian (FREE) (click on link)

daley2 September 3rd, 2006 07:01 PM

"1. When searching for music use the Audio-tab and not the All Files-tab. I know several others ask you to try the All Files-tab, but if you follow these "hints" You will find many more and better results. If you don't find what you're looking for then feel free to try the All Files-tab, but there is very rarely anything to be found which would not be found using the Audio-tab"

I tryed looking in the audio section and it will only give me vidoe results. Has this ever happened to anyone else? and if it has, how do I fix it?

Sleepless September 3rd, 2006 07:44 PM

Please don't Doublepost. I don't know why you can't get your search to work and I'm sure others will see your thread in the "Getting started section"

The only reason that this thread is even open is so that people that have something useful to add can post it here.

So I say this again

Only post in this thread if you have something useful to add

NobodysFoolmusic September 17th, 2006 06:24 PM

tip on finding music
 
don't use the whole song title if it's a long 1, it's only a search, ur only supposed 2 use key words in a search

XIANAIX October 9th, 2006 04:16 PM

On a side note to sleepless, or anyone else who gets the dancing girl video, the file size is 1,034 kb, most always!

nosleepno October 10th, 2006 04:05 AM

how I search for hard to find stuff
 
I have found I have the best luck using the all file types tab.... what I will do is enter a search something like: *sublime*badfish*.mp3
or: *rolling*stones*.mp3



You get the idea... it works great for me.
also use the "get more results" as many times as necessary, and sometimes it takes alot of times.

Sleepless October 10th, 2006 01:08 PM

@ nosleepno

Just curious, but what is your success rate for downloads?

I just tried that Rolling Stones thing and got what is probably 2000 fake files and 3 legit ones. 2003 results. Tried some samples and not a single one downloaded. BTW I normally just close the search, if the results go over 750 in the initial search.

nosleepno October 11th, 2006 02:21 PM

sucess rate
 
It's actually pretty good... the rolling stones thing was just an example.. you want to be more specific... basically just look at the way most mp3's are named, and put the name of the song you want.... using the * as variables. For example I just searched for *cake*ruby*.mp3 for the song by Cake called "ruby sees all", I got 148 results, without using the get more results thing. about half of them were obviously fake, didn't even have the keywords in them, not mp3's, etc...
The first good one I tried downloaded in 45 seconds, and was the correct file...
That is pretty typical of just about ANY song I have searched for. ANy movie also...
I don't know if it makes a difference, but I purchased Limewire Pro... actually I know it makes a difference, cause the pro works WAY better than the regular one, for me at least.... thanks, to the people that wrote this software


Jeff

Sleepless October 11th, 2006 03:56 PM

Well I agree with you completely about PRO being better :)

I tried with other stuff as well and got more junk than searching under audio

You do know that limewire does not recognise * as anything right?

try cake ruby under audio. Add .wma to the keywordfilter first

Sleepless October 11th, 2006 04:49 PM

Did a little test :wink:

Attachment 2964

1: Audio. All fake

2: All Files. All fake

3: All Files. 2 legit

4: Audio. 10 Legit including a 320 kbps result

Like I said in the guide. Exhaust all possibilities :D

I still kinda proved your point though since I had to change the keywords

nosleepno October 12th, 2006 07:16 PM

thats weird...
 
2 Attachment(s)
I already got .wma on the ignore list, as well as a few ip's on the block list.
seems like i get different results when using cake*ruby*.mp3 than if i just use cake ruby .mp3 , in the all types search...
see attached pics for details...

sporanzo November 23rd, 2006 09:26 AM

I discovered one day that if you type in the artist and album name only you get much better results when searching for something you're having particular spam probs with. Or even just the album. I've been searching before and had hundreds of spam results, downloaded about ten different ones and all were spam. I typed just the album name and only a few results came up but they were all good.

Obvious problem is it only works if the song is already on an album!

deckerd26354 December 10th, 2006 08:36 PM

...It may be just me, but I've noticed that within the last couple of months, a *lot* more hosts are offline than before...??

crista311 December 13th, 2006 07:45 PM

HOw come there is a red writing that I cannot delete.
 
how can I delete it?

natalie roach January 4th, 2007 12:01 PM

well since iam a new member i wouldnt really know exactly what to expect but i am a oldies fan and iam hoping that i would get the songs i have been longing for like the manhattans regina belle patti labelle taylor dane aretha anita baker toni braxton whiney houston lisa lisa lisa, paula abdul janet jackson michael jackson the isley brothers,and so many others

Renegade78 January 6th, 2007 03:24 AM

Whenever I search for a song, I always get a HUGE list of different files for the song, but when I click any of them to download, they just sit in the downloads section with a "Connecting..." status and don't do anything. Most of the files in the search section under the Location column say "Multiple" with high numbers like 90 or 100 in brackets next to them.

What's with this, and how do I fix it?

Sleepless January 6th, 2007 03:39 AM

Hmm. maybe by actually using this guide instead of just posting ;)

Renegade78 January 6th, 2007 03:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sleepless
Hmm. maybe by actually using this guide instead of just posting ;)

I did... It helped a bit, but I still get tonnes of different files with the "Mutiple" thing in brackets, and when I download them, they just sit there and say "Connecting...". Even when I download bigger files with high bitrates.

Sleepless January 6th, 2007 04:10 AM

In one of the first sections of that guide it says in so many words that all results that go close to or above 1000 hits are bogus fake files.

Whenever you get the same song listed with eg.
#
100
99
97
96

Don't even bother trying. instead try another searchphrase

Renegade78 January 6th, 2007 06:16 AM

Alright, got my own system now. Filtering out wma's, arranging the search results by size, and downloading the files with the biggest # which are close enough to the top to make sense to be real. Seems to work really well.

twoboys January 7th, 2007 04:13 PM

Hi I tried to download a movie
[edit]

and in the end all I got was voice no picture

is there a secert to downloading movies

Thanks
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Edited to comply with the House Rules.
Warez, copyright violation, or any other illegal activity may NOT be linked or expressed in any form.

muhctekdano January 7th, 2007 06:52 PM

You should edit your post...talking about copywrited material is against the forum rules

Try posting in another thread...this is about music!

Good Luck :idea:

mxrcer69 May 16th, 2007 06:56 PM

ok when i started lime wire and i went in to download a song for the first time soemthnig came up about downloading music and i hit dont show this again and hit NO and now when i type things in to search a lot comes up but i cant download any of it. : ( please help me

muhctekdano May 16th, 2007 08:02 PM

See if this helps:

How to fix the license problem

Good Luck :rolleyes_2:

Dano

Jezzard May 26th, 2007 09:42 AM

Blank files with just a hiss on some previews ............ very strange

muhctekdano May 26th, 2007 09:44 AM

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=29977

Jezzard May 26th, 2007 09:50 AM

Uh Oh
 
:( Look I tried searching for blank files referring to blank MP3 files but it never turned up any links so a friendly bit of advice would have been nicer than a short sharp hyperlink dont you think .......... was you a school teacher in a former life ?

muhctekdano May 26th, 2007 10:04 AM

I can't give any advice if you don't explain yourself.

What do you mean you are searching for blank files? What are blank files? Are you searching on Limewire or on the internet? What player are you using to 'preview' these files? Can you otherwise listen to music on your computer? Did you actually read this guide?

Jezzard May 26th, 2007 10:13 AM

Sorry but I haven't found my way round here yet, m,y apologies if I posted in the wrong place

What I was trying to say was I was searching the forum to find out if people were experiencing files that were allegedly MP3 files but just turned out to be blank with a noisy hiss when previewed

muhctekdano May 26th, 2007 10:24 AM

Thanks! That's much more clear. :) I haven't encountered that myself.

Does it happen a lot? Can you give some examples of what type of file you are downloading (no file names), i.e. how many hosts, what bitrate, connection type of host? Are the files you're attempting to download very new or popular?

Spam is getting more and more common on the network. With your input, we can all be better equipped to avoid it if possible! By the way, you can listen to music on your computer, right? Some songs do play?

Thanks :D

Dan

Jezzard May 26th, 2007 10:33 AM

Yup sure I have tried the same track in 3 different formats MP3 wma M4a and 5 different bitrates for the MP3 all to no avail when I do get about 10% downloaded from an MP3 or wma file all I get is the hiss whils dowloading a different MP3 at the same time is fine

Tried previewing with the inbuilt player Jet Winamp & windows player all with the same resul M4a is a new one on me no preview at all

thx for your reply btw :Smilywais:

SlowPoke May 26th, 2007 10:58 AM

my strategy for searching is to type in .avi or .mpg in the video search feild. with the most popular results at the top I then download what looks appealing and browse hosts within the search results...most the time if you have something downloading you'll be getting it from 8 hosts. Then you right click and browse host in the download window to get a different host than the one you browsed in the search results!Once you have multiple hostss up in your search tabs, browse away at other peoples tastes because they often have stuff you wouldn't normally find in the nnormal search window.. This is my first post and i want to find out easier ways to get hard to find stuff..I often find very rare songs and videos that certain hostss have but im unable to download because it says need more sources.Is it worth upgrading to LW pro? It claims to give better search results.

Sleepless May 26th, 2007 11:00 AM

@ Jezzard

It's people working for the recordcompany, that artist of said song/album is signed to, that release and share bogus files on the network, to prevent people from downloading the real one.

I bet it had lots of hosts sharing it as well.

Try really reading through this guide and I'm sure you will find a way past it.

Jezzard May 26th, 2007 11:41 AM

Cheers Sleepless
 
I'll read it with interest thanks a lot for your input ..... errr where is it btw ?

Sleepless May 26th, 2007 11:57 AM

at the beginning of the thread. You posted in the guide feedback.

Go to page one, first post ;)


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