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lucy1029 August 11th, 2005 09:20 PM

Scam!!!!
 
I just got a reply e-mail from them to fill out a refund form. They said the refund will be in my accound in 3 days. We'll see if that happens.

phoenixxx minder August 12th, 2005 01:22 AM

Way to go Lucy and after the 3 days make sure you e mail them at least 4 times a day asking for an update on your refund, dont forget to include the date. In case they pull the fast one of we didnt receive it in time.

StoneMidget August 12th, 2005 01:00 PM

I'm a lucky one
 
I got scammed by movieadvanced.com, luckily I only purchased a 1 year "subscription" for $19.99, AND paid by PayPal. I guess a tiny portion of my Id was still working in a dark corner, even as I succumbed to the primitive, greedy, lizard part of the brain.
Once I realized that I couldn't access anything beyond their new user login page, I did a search on them (Google) to see if anything negative started popping up. Eventually, I found this forum & thread, found out a lot.
I contacted PayPal about it, changed my password right away, and waited. That was last night. I just recieved an e-mail from PayPal that ClickBank has refunded my money.
BTW, I did do an initial search on them, but the pre-liminary search returns were all coming back positive. Live and Learn;)

phoenixxx minder August 12th, 2005 01:58 PM

scammed
 
thats the story of my life, maybe thats why I am so cautious now. Even as recent as 3 months ago, I purchased roxios easy DVD copy twice, one for me and the other for my son. Guess what...both expired after 30 days and all roxio do is ignore my emails and when i go through their tech site, they close the message. Finally bought the CD and loaded ok, never did get my money back or a reply, maybe getting hardened to the net cause I dont care either. I am just one of the millions who get screwed by the net and these fanciful ideas. probably wont be the last time either:rolleyes:
not registering for their tech support rather do without.

lucy1029 August 12th, 2005 07:49 PM

Scam
 
Just got an e-mail from Clkbank or something like that. My money has been refunded and should show up in my account in 3 days. I also reported them to every internet fraud site (10) I could find and the Federal Trade Commission.

ultracross August 12th, 2005 09:31 PM

Re: scammed
 
Quote:

Originally posted by phoenixxx minder
thats the story of my life, maybe thats why I am so cautious now. Even as recent as 3 months ago, I purchased roxios easy DVD copy twice, one for me and the other for my son. Guess what...both expired after 30 days and all roxio do is ignore my emails and when i go through their tech site, they close the message.
after doing that, might as well just download a pirated/cracked version instead. hell, you paid for the license, and since their software F'ed up you wouldnt be violating any laws.

(btw, microsoft has acquired and now owns roxio (thats why windows now has a built in cd-burning app), so i highly recommend using nero) ;)

:cool:

ultracross August 12th, 2005 09:37 PM

Re: Scam
 
Quote:

Originally posted by lucy1029
Just got an e-mail from Clkbank or something like that. My money has been refunded and should show up in my account in 3 days. I also reported them to every internet fraud site (10) I could find and the Federal Trade Commission.
limewire might beable to sue them because they violate the GPL since these sites do not post where the source can be accessed.

(anyone who distributes a GPL'ed app, must give access to the full source code and it must be readily available and communicated to the end-user that this software is GPL'ed..) please correct me if im wrong.

stefan9211 August 15th, 2005 10:59 AM

Heh..dont worry about Mp3downloading.com i heard that somebody planned on hacking it on this forum..

malissac63 August 15th, 2005 02:38 PM

Ok I am stupid
 
New User here, and I guess from reading the posts I guess I got ripped. I thought it was suppose to be a membership of around $30.00 and by the time I was done it was $52.63. So can anyone tell me if that is right or did someone scam me. I went to the correct website as you had listed in your previous post. And I thought I had 7 days to decide if I want to keep it or not. So how do you cancel if you want to. Its only been 3 days since I downloaded. Thanks to whoever can answer my questions.

ultracross August 15th, 2005 04:45 PM

yeap, you got scammed! read below \/

mooneymc August 15th, 2005 06:43 PM

Download scams
 
Beware "GETFLIX"!!!!!!!!!!!!

ukbobboy01 August 16th, 2005 05:11 AM

Legit Purchase
 
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NipRing

Your purchase looks OK, go to this page:

http://sales.limewire.com/support/?

You will see a page like the attached jpg, just fill it in.



UK Bob

NipRing August 16th, 2005 12:13 PM

problem is, it wont accept my email address as a valid LimeWire Pro owner. Now what?

~bill

fabion August 16th, 2005 12:19 PM

Are you using the e-mail address that you originally got pro with?

You may have changed e-mail accounts since getting pro, or if you have more than one e-mail account try them all

Fed up August 16th, 2005 01:46 PM

Have I been scammed?
 
Hi, I've just found this forum after days of trying to register at "limewire-software.com." I typed in Limewire at Ixquick and it gave me several choices. The one I went to was the official site - I thought. It even had the green lime etc. on it. I only meant to download the free one, but was cchatting to a friend at the same time. Next thing I knew it was asking for E27.76 - 2 payments ie. E17.88 and E9.88. I thought I had put in my e-mai address incorrectly, as I never received the e-mail confirming my membership and I've no way of contacting them as they look for the e-mail address if I go to try and contact them. I wonder have I been scammed. I even have the password they gave me, but I can't get into the site to use it! It looked very like the site you keep advertising in this forum.......

Signed: I'm an idiot!

ukbobboy01 August 16th, 2005 02:13 PM

Great Scam Site
 
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Fed-Up

This is definately a scam site and check out the real name of the site, RealMusicNow.com.

When you saw the name change/redirection you should have abandoned the transaction.

You've read the forum and now you know what to do.



UK Bob

phoenixxx minder August 16th, 2005 02:36 PM

check it out
 
just been playing around, typed in limewire and followed the instructions on each individual sites, there is probably thousands just a few- called alllimewire.com limewire-muzic, download mp3 no wonder so many people are being scammed, maybe the limewire logo could incorporate the slogan
"if you gotta pay it aint the real limewire"

pervinpatty August 16th, 2005 02:42 PM

Gotta love these scam sites, of course after the 30 days was up they decided to answer my numerous email requests with a sorry your times up. So I sent them my zillion emails telling them no it wasn't and stop playing games. Next email was your refund is being processed LOL.:D

ruthie August 17th, 2005 02:08 PM

I have just realised that I too have been scammed. I paid using an option for two year membership at 60p a month for free unlimited access from the saem site on the first page of this topic. I am in the Uk and I am deaf and not used to using Pcs. I am going to go straight to my bank in the morning to cancel the subscription. Any other advice for me folks? I really like the Limewire, its brilliant and would be happy to get the Pro, but first am gonna sort out things with my bank in the morning. What should I say to them? I feel such a fooool! I am frightened to think how much money has been taken out of my account even though I only signed up 3 days ago...Can I get it back?

phoenixxx minder August 17th, 2005 02:58 PM

60p per month
 
Is that direct debit or standing order at 60p per month or the equivalent, if its either of the first 2 then just cancel, if you paid a total price you will have to go back to the source and demand your refund. the bank wont be able to do anything or at least I dont think they can.

rman56 August 18th, 2005 04:07 AM

membership?
 
Don't feel bad, I got taken too but fortunately realized my mistake about 2 hours after "joining". It was for $17.88. I don't know if I was really had, or just stupid, but all I got was a promise of 24/7 technical support, and this was NOT for LimeWire, btw, which is to date the best I've come upon so far. Anyway, one name it goes by is TV.org. Fortunately, I realized the error of my ways about 2 hours after enrolling and immediately cancelled payment.

ukbobboy01 August 18th, 2005 04:44 AM

Standing Orders & Direct Debits
 
Ruthie

As Phoenixxx Minder said, standing orders and/or direct debits can be cancelled but there is a subtle difference between the two. A standing order is your promise to pay a company a certain amount, usually every month, according to your instructions to your bank. A direct debit is a demand for payment placed on your bank account by a company you have given permission to by filling out the necessary forms.

That means a company with a direct debit can place a demand for payment on your account as and when they want to. Now, as most of us get monthly bank statements, this means that you will not know how many direct debit demands were placed on your bank account until you get your statement or until your bank informs you that you have overdrawn.

This happened to me some years ago when I was dealing with an insurance company, instead of taking a certain amount monthly by direct debit they decided to make three direct debit demands in one go. As you can imagine, this pushed me into the red, I got my money back and no longer deal with that company.

The point I am making is this, if you have filled out a direct debit form, on the scam site you joined, they could be milking your bank account right now because your bank will honour direct debit demands as long as you have money (including your overdraft limit) in your account.

Therefore, you should not wait contact your bank and cancel this transaction as soon as you can.



UK Bob

Wolfsister654 August 19th, 2005 09:42 AM

This Forum saved me from the scammers!
 
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Hello!..Nice to meet you all!
I recently searched and found the "Top Site of the Week", sooo I registered and used my credit card(OPPS!)...Long story short? I also went to the wrong site..It's limewire without a capital "L". I can across this forum and this thread and well...I saw I'd been had.GRRRRRR
I had to cut up my card, and my bank is deciding whether to reimberse me for the $49 bucks I so dorkiedly charged. Which isn't what they said it would be! GRRRR
Now I am about to use the URL I saw posted here, for the "Real" website".... I feel nervous even using that now...
I want to report those "people"..who and how do I do that? or is it not nesscary?
I hope I learn how to use this type of Forum soon... smilies,enter links,etc, real soon...I can't right now..should I ask for advice on a different thread?
I look forward to enjoying my "membership",lol, here at Limewire. I am really new to making music, I have soooooo much to learn. I hope this pic shows...I need help...in many ways,hehe
Take care,
Wolfsister
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pervinpatty August 19th, 2005 10:47 AM

hmmmmm?
 
ok it's bad enough that everyone gets scammed, but what's up with all your banks and credit card companies not backing you? Sounds to me as well as cutting up your cards you need to switch banks. I'm in as much shock over all the scam sites getting away with this crap as well as the banks! Sounds like the banks are supporting the scam sites NOT their customers.:eek:

FLCl August 19th, 2005 09:27 PM

Omg ! A year ago I wen't to that site ( filesharingcenter.com ), and their is where I did my subscriptsion for limewire . Luckely I paid by check, so ...

Fed up August 26th, 2005 08:19 AM

Really p....d off!
 
I am so mad! When I got my credit card bill, it gave the name of the company as MP3Downloading.Com. As I hadn't a clue if this was legit or not I rang my Cr. Card company and explained. They were great. When I said it should read LimeWire.com they said it would be best to lock down the card completely and they'd contact the company to get them to explain what's going on. Look at all the trouble this has caused, having to get a new credit card and number. Thank God, nothing other than the 28E had been taken out.

I'm so cynical now that I don't trust any of the sites. The credit card company also said that LimeWire itself should be able to do something if they know that these scams are going on in their site. Is this a reasonable thing to assume?

Also, I'm now worried about this site itself. Is this a file sharing site and if so if I download Limewire does it mean that anybody and everybody can snoop about inside my computer. Sorry if I sound mad but I am, and when you're not an expert and you don't know much about computers, it makes you even more cautious. Can you put my mind at ease over the Limewire downloads or not? Thanks!

ukbobboy01 August 26th, 2005 09:08 AM

Taking it Slow
 
Fed up

At least you had enough sense to come here, realised that you went to a scam site by mistake and you are now trying to get your money back. Many newbies, like yourself, never get their money back because they either realise too late they have been scammed or never find out.

So now let’s move on and get down to the nitty gritty:

You said (1):
Quote:

The credit card company also said that LimeWire itself should be able to do something if they know that these scams are going on in their site.
Well, this forum has always shouted loudly and clearly about scam sites, published lists of known sites and advised people what to do once they realise they've been scammed, to do more than that is unrealistic.

Simply put, LW cannot stop anyone from setting up a scam site and paying Google to ensure that their site’s name comes top of any search for P2P software. In addition, a scam site on the internet can be anywhere in the world. Therefore, it is not possible for LW to do more about such sites. After all, you cannot always protect people who, without doing any research, charge head first into disaster.

You said (2):
Quote:

Also, I'm now worried about this site itself.
I don't really understand why you should be worried about the LW site, it's been around for years. Maybe I have misunderstood what you are trying to say.

You said (3):
Quote:

Is this a file sharing site and if so if I download Limewire does it mean that anybody and everybody can snoop about inside my computer.
No one can snoop around inside your PC, apart from computer companies, just because you are using LW but if, like me, you are security conscious then you should take certain precautions:

1) Anti-Virus software - Protection against Trojans, worms or viruses that may sneak onto your PC via an open port, dodgy download or by any other means.

2) Firewall – Protect your PC from a hack attacks, stealths your PC and protects it from unauthorised entry.

3) Anti-Spyware – Protects you from adware, spyware, keyloggers, etc. which you pick up during normal surfing.

4) PeerGuardian 2 – Prevents computer companies (both foreign and domestic), local authorities and any organisation with big computers from sneaking into your PC, via port 6346, while using LW.

5) Keep your O/S security updates current

There are other security software around, such as anti-browser hijack, but I think I have given you enough to think about.

By the way, the URL to use to download LW or LW Pro is:

http://www.limewire.com/english/content/download.shtml

I hope I have put your mind at ease because, although you have been bitten once and as long as you remain cautious, there is no reason why you should not take part in and use the internet.




UK Bob

spar1691 August 29th, 2005 06:38 PM

hi in april i went to www.allcoolmusic.com on registering i think i paid a fee but cannot find the transaction on entering the members section it took me to www.mymusicnow.cc/eng/get started.php were the instructions for downloading lw 4.8.1 free i used this for a while then paid for pro when prompted on starting limewire on 21 may a transaction on my card for 18.88usd to LWL*LIMEWIRE LLC 212-2196050 NY. Its possible i have been scammed for the first payment but i am missing the vital statement at the moment but will go in the bank tomorrow to get a copy

samtaz14 August 30th, 2005 04:27 PM

con sites
 
Hi it would seem I also have done this and the name on my card is IP-Mp3downloading.Com this has cost me £32 GBP instead of the £9 as advertised. It is ok for the internet whiz who knows where to go and what is available but when you are just learning it becomes a little too easy to be conned. I agree I will be more cautious in future but do not be harsh on the newcomers just because you have the experience.

ukbobboy01 August 31st, 2005 05:19 AM

Being Sharp with Newbies
 
Samtaz14

I only become harsh with conned newbies when they come to this forum shouting the odds that LW ripped them off, it's someone else’s fault that they've been ripped off, sheer newbie arrogance or that the volunteers that help out around here owes them something.

However, if a newbie says “help, have I been conned?” or “Help, I’ve been conned, what do I do?” then they will get all the “help” I and the other volunteers here can give.



UK Bob

samtaz14 August 31st, 2005 07:52 AM

If you had actually read my original post correctly I wasnt blaming anyone and had in fact been resigned to what had happened but still you feel the need to arrogantly shout your cleverness that you weren't conned. Well done!!!

spar1691 August 31st, 2005 09:03 AM

I do not blame LW for this problem either but i thought other people would like to know for information and maybe LW can look into it if not already doing so and stop these sites from ruining LW's name as i found it brilliant until the new 4.29 was released. i can confirm that i too paid money to this site as recommended in a well known monthly Rag i mean Mag after contacting the website i been told i was charged for the service they provide so wont pay them anymore simple. my credit card company also thought LW should take some responsibility but after explaining i did not originally access LW direct and these sites just direct you to LW they seemed to relent, still not getting my money back though but the card is blocked so no money can be taken.Not all lessons in life are free and this one cost me a few quid it could have been much worse. so let up on us newbies as we learn, more constructive comments help us not to fall into traps in the future, i look up to people who have knowledge and share it, those that snear and say things like you should have known better, in most cases i,ve found dont know as much as they think they do. But as i have problems with my connection and the info i am getting throgh the other posting and generally in these forums is very helpful i'd like to thank all you experts especially as i know i'm gonna need your help sometime or other in the future. bit of a long posting this sorry but hope this can help somebody.

ukbobboy01 September 1st, 2005 05:53 AM

samtaz14

You know, I cannot find your original post where you said I took a pop at you for being scammed.

Could you provide a link so that I can see again your original post and my reply that seem to have made you so angry?

Believe me when I say that I am not an arrogant person or believe that I am so clever that I can't learn from other people.

I will say this though, I work for my living and I hate it when someone tries to, or set traps to, take my hard earned money for nothing. I also use the internet to buy most of the stuff I own therefore I appreciate the value of money and appreciate the value of a little research before parting with my cash.

Thinking about it, maybe you should not be resigned to being ripped off, you should be angry that you were lied to and taken for a sucker (remember the saying: there’s one born every minute). Scam sites flourish because far too many newbies throw their money at them and then do nothing afterwards, except blame somebody else. So unless your money means nothing you should get onto your credit card company and demand your money back.




UK Bob

PS. Anger is only useful if it is aimed at the right target.

samtaz14 September 1st, 2005 08:36 AM

I really appreciate the trouble you take to write back to my posts and would like to gently point out that maybe you should read your own reply and apply much of it to yourself.
Sam

ukbobboy01 September 1st, 2005 10:50 AM

Well Sam

I try to.


UK Bob

samtaz14 September 1st, 2005 10:53 AM

Hey Uk Bob I will also and it has been great to have met you I hope we can speak again some time about less heated matters.
Sam

spar1691 September 2nd, 2005 05:36 AM

refund maybe?
 
just to update you after contacting allcoolmusic i recieved a reply today offering me a full refund have asked them to go ahead and refund my money, the email i sent mentioned that i had reported them to LW and my bank so now i will wait and see if the refund ever appears.

samtaz14 September 2nd, 2005 06:42 AM

Hey Spar
thanks for letting me know I shall look into it.
Regards
Sam

Lord of the Rings September 2nd, 2005 03:18 PM

Please supply the site address when posting here
 
For anybody who does get scammed by scam sites, please supply the site address URL so I can add it here Known Scam Sites to help warn others & for other people's quick reference. ;) :)

PS: ukbobboy01 please go easy on these people, remember they're very upset by what's happened. Their mistakes are obvious, they don't need to be run into the ground over it. The League of the Scammed approach you use is a little heavy at times considering they're already upset. They 1st need advice how to get a refund/cancellation of the transactions.

samtaz14 September 2nd, 2005 03:31 PM

Lord of the Rings
Many thanks for your reply I was beginning to wonder if their were any friendly people to talk to on this forum. It's nice to know that I will be able to approach the forum again and perhaps learn one or two things and meet good people. nice one!!!!
Regards
Sam

ukbobboy01 September 3rd, 2005 03:52 AM

LOTR & Sam

Point taken.


UK Bob

alfred_bowman September 6th, 2005 04:37 AM

I Purchased Limewire
 
I purchases a lifetime membership in AllCoolMusic a while ago. Limewire came with it as a download.They sais Limewire was free. The fee was for their own efforts to develop the network.

aprila220 September 6th, 2005 07:14 PM

uggghhh
 
Guess what? I got screwed as well...I'm new to this downloading stuff and I researched the best downloading sites via yahoo search after messing with Kazaa (hated it!). This review site came up with all these "free" sites...the site that was rated the best was ****MP3LIVEMUSIC.COM****, I was very confused when after I paid for it, it directed me to LimeWire Basic after paying for what I thought was:

Billing information
Membership type:Lifetime Full & Unlimited Access with 25% OFF! for a total of 22.46 $ USD
Pro Version Upgrade - Movie Codec Pack for a total of 14.95 $ USD
NetSpyProtector Option - Protect yourself from malware for a total of 9.88 $ USD

Grand total: 47.29 $ USD

The charge will appear on your credit card as P2PSupport.Net

I am disputing with my credit card company right now b/c I cannot get anyone to answer me in tech support because of my work hours - they are closed by the time I get off...

I told my cc company that I did not authorize the purchase (truly I did not!), can I do that???

alfred_bowman September 6th, 2005 07:33 PM

I too searched for free music on the Internet. Eventually I got to AllCoolMusic. They offered a lifetime membership for $34.95 and a two year plan for $.99 per month. The downloads would be free (and they have been). I chose the two year plan. Soon a charge showed up on my CC account for $24.95. I asked them about this. After an exchange of emails they converted my account to a lifetime account for no extra charge. I got a warm feeling.

Best of luck with your CC issuer.

Arcticfox September 7th, 2005 01:38 AM

Re: uggghhh
 
Quote:

Originally posted by aprila220
Guess what? I got screwed as well...I'm new to this downloading stuff ........I told my cc company that I did not authorize the purchase (truly I did not!), can I do that???
I have a similar experience with mp3downloading.com who I have taken up with my credit card company. I have been asked for:
Transaction Date; Name of Company; Transaction Amount and Disputed Amount; How I have tried to resolve the dispute. The credit card company have said that the amount disputed will not be paid until the matter is resolved. Meanwhile you would be advised to allow payment of the amount to the CC company so as not to incur penalties. I will post on this forum what happens. Keep watching, I do not give up easily. :)

ukbobboy01 September 7th, 2005 03:07 AM

Lifetime Membership
 
Dear Alfred

You said:
Quote:

They offered a lifetime membership for $34.95 and a two year plan for $.99 per month. The downloads would be free (and they have been). I chose the two year plan. Soon a charge showed up on my CC account for $24.95. I asked them about this. After an exchange of emails they converted my account to a lifetime account for no extra charge. I got a warm feeling.
I would like to ask, you have now got a lifetime membership, to what exactly?

So, this scam site (AllCoolMusic) decided to rip you off for $24.95 instead of $34.95 with an additional 99c per month and you are happy?

Alfred, let me explain the facts of life.

a) Your lifetime membership is to NOTHING because the so-called club you have bought into does not exist.

b) LW Basic is free and LW Pro cost $18.88, for that you get 6 months worth of updates/upgardes, and is available from here:

http://www.limewire.com/english/content/download.shtml

c) Get on to your credit company, tell them you have been conned, and get your money back.

d) The P2P network consist of thousands of PC users like you and me from around the world, running LW, LWPro or some other P2P software on their PCs, this is what enables you to connect to and download from them and, likewise, them from you.

e) Because the P2P network consist of thousands of individually owned PCs no one has the right to or can sell you access to this network, access is freely available.

f) No one, no company or organisation can promise or guarantee that you will be able to download anything from the P2P network, PC users/owners (only) decide what they will put on and make available to share from their PCs.

There are probably another dozen of so points I could make but I think you now have the gist of it.

Alfred, do not let the scammers get away with selling you nothing, try and get your money back.




UK Bob

rai September 7th, 2005 07:00 PM

Well, I have ALMOST been scammed!

I guess that I have to thank you and my suspicious nature that this has not indeed happened.

I wanted to download some tv shows legally. I searched the net and came across some sites. They all offered all these fabulous stuff... But, it did seem too good to be true.

I tried to find what the others say about them. I found a few reviews that sung praises (quess they were scam too). However, I just wasn't comfortable with, for example, not even being able to see faq without signing in (and giving credit card number!!!). And I kept looking for some more information until I found this forum.

So, THANK YOU for sparing me a great deal of frustration and money!

Arcticfox September 7th, 2005 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rai
Well, I have ALMOST been scammed!

What was the name of the site that asked you to be 'registered' with before you could look at the FAQ's. This information is crucial so as to help others of those who have been 'scammed' so they can give the info to their Credit Card company.

I for one do not recall seeing the site MP3-Downloading.com until I have given my CC details to get 'free downloads' Obviously cookies have been aplied here so that you can't see the site until details have been given.

rai September 7th, 2005 07:27 PM

freemovienow.com

BTW, is there a way to legally download tv shows? LimeWire is great about music, but nobody seems to have tv shows I want :(

Arcticfox September 7th, 2005 07:51 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rai
BTW, is there a way to legally download tv shows? (
Try this Thanks for the info on the scam site.


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