Hm, your link looks very suspicious.

For one thing, it has three options of membership, and we have all learned what that means...:D

Apologies, I never checked it out :o :o

When I said I got a warm feeling I was being ironic, now that I know better. At the time I subscribed I knew nothing at all about the Gnutella network and hadn't heard about Limewire. I didn't know the network is free. (Am I right to believe this?) Now I know that a lot of sites are selling LW and use of the network.

Alfred

Rogue Scammers
 

I have been reading your posts, and I have been done too, and I thought I would add my bit. I originally went to www,top-rated-mp3sites.com and I then went to a reviewed site www.MP3MusicLive.com where i consequently paid $37.41 US for free limewire. They said they have online tutorials and live web chats, which are nowhere to be seen in cyberspace and the one thing they do have are ads, which they said they didnt!
Please note all users that the review site contains all spam sites as far as I could tell. Another intersting fact is that if you do a google search for say... free mp3 downloads, or even free tv show downloads then you will be certain to find sites that all look remarkably similar......if you get my drift! ALSO BEWARE: BECAUSE OF LOW SECURITY SETTING NEEDED FOR SITE HACKERS ENTERED MY COMPUTER AND CAN ENTER YOURS TOO IF NOT CAREFUL.
I could say alot more......but I am sure you will be sick of reading by now!
Thank-you all for your help if it werent talking on this forum, I wouldn't have figured it out!

Re: Re: uggghhh
 

I finally got ahold of someone at "mp3livemusic.com." Told them that I knew I had been scammed and demanded my money back. The operator was very rude and tried to dispute that in nowhere did it say that I was purchasing LIMEWIRE Pro, but only a Pro version of their "support." I then informed them of my family friend who was an attorney (this is a true story lol) and that he had read my confirmation email from them and transcipts from this forum of people that were getting taken advantage of just like me. I informed them that this was indeed a scam and that if they did not want a class action lawsuit filed, that they would give me back my money. She snidely laughed and agreed to credit back my cc in full within 7-10 business days. I guess we'll see.

Re: Re: Re: uggghhh
 

I feel they are trying Plan 2 by saying they will return the sum back to your credit card in 7 - 10 business days. Why should it take that length of time? Could it be that this is another delaying tactic to wear you down?

reduced rate
 

I supposedly got a reduced rate for the basic and the pro which ended up costing around 47 is that a scam?

In a word, yes.

hi lord of the rings,
below is the address of the site that scammed me, after asking for a refund and them originally saying yes, they now say i am not eligible for a refund. so i went back to my bank and made a fuss and put it in writing and they are looking at it now, after saying it wasn't there problem (it's amazing how things change when your face to face and not on the phone to some foriegner who will never see you so doesn't care) don't know if i,ll ever get my money back but i aint givin up now

ukbobboy i'll owe you a drink if i ever do get it back i mght have thought you a bit harsh but your words sunk in and i am determined to see it through i wont be scammed again and i will pass my knowledge on to others little though it is

Sometimes Bitter Medicine Works
 

Spar1691

Cheers for that, I am glad you took my comments in the way they were meant and not as a personal attacks, which some people mistakenly believe.

You know, I get angry when ordinary working people get ripped off by scammers and I believe that victims of these sites should not sit quietly back and just accept it. They should demand their money back and push their credit card companies and banks not to do business with parasites (rip-off merchants). After all, if the banks did not provide the necessary banking facilities these scam site would not be able to rip people off.

That’s why, in part, I changed the tone of my advice from "soapy soft" to "harsh" to tell people that if you don’t look after your money no one else will. Because the banks and CCs are only interested in the fees each transaction generates they don’t give a “flying toss” that a scam site customer is actually a victim of fraud. Unfortunately, that did not go down too well and people got angry with me instead of the site that ripped them off.

Spar1691, I am sorry the scammers won’t give you your money back but that is as expected, but the bank, as a respected institution, has a moral obligation to refund your money (which they can readily do by debiting the scammer’s account). Because they, the banks, provided the crooks and parasites with the necessary facilities that allowed you, and countless others, to be ripped off, so they should do something about it.

Anyway, good luck and we’ll meet up for that drink when this is over.




UK Bob

well everyone I just found out I got scammed. This website http://www.mymusicinc.com/ got me for 34.98. Just found this out and reported them to the FBI and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC). I fell like snaping a neck right now
:mad: :mad: :mad:

aaaaaaaaaaannnnnd yes, a refund showed up on my cc today thank goodnessssss....

I have some clues here for people who are easily scammed. Website owners who don't spell or grammar check their sites generally have their mind on other things, like your money.

A quick sample of the English usage on americamp3network:

"In today market"
"On the other side, many of our current customes "
"If you registered and did not received and email "

And my personal favorite: "Support is offered at FREE OG CHARGE for our member "

There are many more.

I may be being a little unkind here, but come on, the signs aren't good when they can't even be bothered to produce a professional web site.

I am thinking of offering a service which checks out web sites for people and tells them if it is a scam or not. It'll cost 39.99 and...

scloud

You will find that most of the people that get scammed suffer from one or more of the following:

1) Too busy to research into or check or the site properly.

2) Fail to see the warning signs because they are either naive or too enthusiastic.

3) Forget to engage "common sense".

4) Fail to understand that a site on the internet can be anywhere in the world and so are governed by different laws.

5) Do not know who they are paying their money to and what they are paying for.

6) Do not understand the concept of P2P or P2P networks.

7) Will jump first and (maybe) ask questions later.

8) Very gullible, have a tendancy to believe the "Highly Improbably", e.g. Unlimited MP3 downloads and Unlimited film downloads for a one off price, lifetime membership (to what?), etc.

9) Failure to take responsibility, i.e. "It's not my fault".

And so on.

Reading the site's advert checking for gramatical and or spelling mistakes is, quite frankly, a non-starter.

Still every little bit helps.



UK Bob

PS. Some people may think I am harsh and heartless but I get angry when working people (like myself) throw their hard earned money away to scammers who do nothing but sit back and laugh. They laugh at us because they think that working people are "stupid gullible chumps", easily fleeced of our cash and belongings.

well...I DID do my research for a few days (or so I thought). I knew nothing of p2p networks, didn't know that was the technical term for it. I just knew that I wanted to download and burn songs and movies. If you do a search from yahoo, google, etc. on the "best" music downloading site, or something of that criteria...these "scam" websites pop up. I had heard of Kazaa, Limewire, etc. and thought that these were the "illegal" sites and thought that by paying for this site that everything was legal. And a lifetime membership for $29.95 sounded great! Understand? So it's alot of people like me who get scammed like that. See my point?

looking back
 

aprila220 i like you did a search and new next to nothing but the site i went to was mentioned in a mag so thought it was safe but now i see what a p**t i was things like free lifetime downloads for $34.99 what was i thinking, you were lucky to get a refund i have had to put everything in writing to my bank just to try to get my money back and then only after making a nuisance of myself at my branch until then they didn't want to know.

hindsight is a wonderful thing but i hope people reading these forums will find out they have been had in time to get refunds,(the site that scammed me had a 30 day money back clause which i now find out they have to by law) not that they will bother to abide by it.

At least you getting your refund gives me hope.

Get your money back, I did!!
 

I had the same problem. I was having a minor difficulty with my "free download of Limewire," only I only paid for one year after they finally offered me a free trial. MyMusic.com didn't want to give me the refund, but after multiple threats and reminding them of their free trial offer, they relented. When they asked me on the "request for refund" form, I told them exactly why - they were a scam and that I could get the same software free anyway from the original legitimate site.

So, just keep at them, they'll give you your money back. Report it to your bank and/or credit card company and tell them you did it.

Worked for me.

I do see your point, but, you'd be far better searching for something like "p2p SCAM" first.
I'll tell you how I found this forum: I got an email advertising
_www.americamp3network.com. I did what I always do when checking out sites I've never heard of, I typed "americamp3network scam" into google to see if anything came up, and this forum was the SECOND entry. Call me cynical, but I'm not the one pouring 30 dollars of my hard earned cash down the drain. Remember just about anyone can set up a site on the internet in countries where it is almost impossible to get any legal redress - suspect first, trust (maybe) later.

hindsight
 

yes i know to do that now!! but were do all the newbies find out how to do this, i take webuser everyfortnight for over a year now as well as other mags occasionally, one of those was were i got the info about the site in the first place, but along with all the regular letters and practicals have not noticed a walkthrough for bebginners on how to avoid being scammed by taking these steps, dont get me wrong no one is to blame except me for this but its not like i haven't done any reading at all, one mate also been scammed never reads anything just blunders in then sits in the pub complaining later, he's the sort who never runs anti spyware virus scans then complains when his computer gets infected? he must have plenty of cash though its cost him loads to put things right but when i went round and ran adaware his defs were 117 days old and the scan produced 1189 critical hits, so i may not be the best, by a very long way, but i know im not the worst.

bit of a ramble this better stop now.

Scam Sites (again)
 

Spar1691 Scam sites pay search engines so that they come top of any search inquiry for "music downloads", "P2P", "Limewire" or any combo of words about films or music. You see, for Google et al it's just business.

ScloudIt is positively refreshing to see that someone else, apart from me, takes the spending of their money seriously. No one has the right to take my money for nothing, I have worked hard to earn it and therefore I should enjoy it. Your approach to researching web sites is "inspired".




UK Bob

Yes, yes, however if read what I wrote, I did not know until I landed in this forum after downloading my "paid for" Limewire from the scam site that p2p was what the technical term for doing this downloading stuff...again, I only searched for "the best site to download music and movies" and like I said before, ended up with scam sites.
I had a dinosaur computer before which had no burning audio or dvd capability. I just bought this one about 3 weeks ago...I knew that stuff could be done but didn't know how to get it done...that's why I did my research, which was obviously wrong...
Now I've been highly educated, so I thank everyone for their support in this forum...nuff said from me on my end...I got scammed point blank, thought I did my research but not well enough, lesson learned, moving on...

a friend of mine got limewire pro without having to pay for it by downloading it from the free version of limewire...it shouldn't be that easy

Ripped off too (I think)
 

http://www.mp3downloading.com

This is the website that took £27 ($48) off of me back in June. I have been thinking all this time that I was doing everything by the book and had a lifetime membership to download. What an idiot!

It is past business hours now, but rest assured I am on the phone to my bank first thing tomorrow. As for the rip off website, they have no e-mail contact address and the only phone number available is in St Kitts! It will probably cost me more than the money originally spent to call them. The only other alternative is a live chat option, which I'm thinking will be my best bet.

No way I'm letting this rest. I will fight all the way, not for my moeny, but for the damn principal of it all. I'm so pissed right now I can't even tell you!

Thanks to everyone who has highlighted other cases, and good luck to all those persuing justice. Even if you have only lost a small amount please report these scam artists.

Re: Ripped off too (I think)
 

I have just had a telephone call from my credit card company. They say as I gave my card details to mp3downloading.com there is little they can do. I asked what would happen if they resubmitted a further claim some time after the 'two years' subscription and the Credit card company said I would have a claim against them then. One lives and learns, theres no gain without pain. I shall be very wary in future.

I sometimes wonder if the Credit Card companies or the Scam sites are the greediest low lifes. I think if you can show your CC company that you have been the victim of fraud and that you have paid for something you did not get, they should honour their guarantee of protecting customers from fraud. Have a look at the small print and see if you can do this ... just a thought. At least change companies, or at any rate your card number, otherwise you will have to do this all over again in two years time, if they dont start charging you for things before then, that is. Good luck:)

It seems I was taken as well
 

It would seem that I am another person who was hosed by scammers. I try to be extremely careful about purchasing on the internet and thought I had researched this site properly. So everyone has the information that was sent to me, I am going to include it here but without my email address. Full message headers are included to help as much as possible. I nhope that this also might lead to the demise of the scammer(s) who perpetrated this problem (stronger words are in my mind but I want to keep to the rules)

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Dear *** ********

Welcome to the worlds greatest file sharing software website on the internet!

Please print out this page for your records.

Billing information
Membership type:1 Year Full & Unlimited Access for a total of 17.88 $ USD
Pro Version Upgrade - Movie Codec Pack for a total of 14.95 $ USD

Grand total: 32.83 $ USD

The charge will appear on your credit card as

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To login please use the email address used for signing up.




To begin enjoying your membership, please go to http://realmusicnow.com/login.asp

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americamp3network.com scam
 

Thank you all for the information concerning the Limewire clone sites. I had not even realized I'd been suckered by the people at:

/http://www.americamp3network.com/

Dang! Double dang. My concern/question is this:

I can accept (bitterly) the cost of my "2 year membership" as the cost of an important lesson- although I am trying to recoup it. What concerns me more is the idea of unknowingly having downloaded something icky (like spyware) when I downloaded Limewire. Is that possible?

Does anyone know anything more about the folks at americamp? Are they just in it for my $46 dollars? Are they trying to get in to my computer? Will they try to charge my account now that they have my information?

Any other "satisfied" americamp customers out there?

Sorry to be ranting. I'm just wondering how deep these scams can go.

Thanks.

Some More Information
 

Etravelslight

The following info covers most, if not all, scam sites like Americamp3network:

1) They are primarily in it for the easy money they make, remember you said: I had not even realized I'd been suckered. Now imagine the thousands (maybe hundreds of thousands) from around the world that have paid their money and still have no idea they have been suckered. Now multiply that by $46.00, that is a huge sum of money for investing next to nothing.

Is it any wonder that scam sites or on the increase, newbies make it just too easy.

2) Most scammers just give you a link to download a freebie P2P software, like Limewire Basic or Bearshare Lite, but others can and do put viruses and/or spyware into the version of software they let you download. The only way you will know is by running an anti-virus and anti-spyware app.

I would go one further and suggest that you also delete the rubbish you downloaded from the scam site and download the proper software from the official site.

One final thing, other forum members have found that although they are ever increasing numbers of scam sites on the internet they all tend to be owned by a few major, yet unknown, companies, some situated in countries with lack laws.




UK Bob

Uh Oh
 

Well looks like I fell into her footsteps. I paid Lifetime and Unlimited access for 22.46; then I also upgraded to pro version for 14.95; and I got net spy for 9.88 totaling 47.29. Is this the same scam guys..I got the e-mail confirmation and a phone number for support contacts? Have I been duped? This is all on LimeWire.

This is what I got...I don't know if is the same scam.

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Pro Version Upgrade - Movie Codec Pack for a total of 14.95 $ USD
NetSpyProtector Option - Protect yourself from malware for a total of 9.88 $ USD

Grand total: 47.29 $ USD

The charge will appear on your credit card as MP3Support.Net

Membership information
Order ID #: 717920050923095317790

To login please use the email address used for signing up.




To begin enjoying your membership, please go to http://www.musicmembersarea.com/login.asp

Note: You will find your additional upgrade software in our member's area under the 'bonus software' section.

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Hello, and thanks to this forum here (which i came about somehow) I realized I have been scammed by mymusicinc. I just paid $19 to download limewire, which you all are saying is free...so I have been had too?
:mad:

Agentrip & Treessa

Sorry that you guys got scammed, I hope that you are taking the necessary steps to get your money back.

Agentrip, you said:How is it LW's fault that you got scammed? You're the one that went to the scam site, LW did not send you there, and you're the one that parted with your money without checking that you were dealing with a legitamate site.

If you get your money back from your credit card company then great but if you don't then put this experience down to your own carelessness, i.e. jumping without looking, and vow never to get caught like this again.

You might think I am being harsh but how can you guard yourself against scam sites, and other bushwhackers on the internet, if you do not accept that you have done something wrong, i.e. trusting without double checking.




UK Bob

A good reason why I don't like e-mail so much...You must explain all. I apologize for the misunderstanding. I meant no harm to limewire itself, I only meant that this is where I ran into the problem at..I am pleased with limewire and not so happy that I got scammed...So please: to all that read my post do not think I am trying to "insult" limewire...Hope this makes more sense

Ok Folks...This is what I did and it may help others. As we know, a lot of us are being scammed. Remember they now have our credit card information. So I called my credit card company, reported a lost card (told them the situation) and got a new account. The charge on my credit card is being disputed and the old account is being closed under fraud action. The company is sending me a bill in the mail so I can highlight the transactions that I believe to be invalid: once that is complete I will send it back and the charge will be void. I hope this helps..

I got hosed too!
 

I don't feel as bad now that I see we got hosed as a group, however,I would like to think that the programmers of limewire have some kind of patent because I would be glad to help them collect some royalties from all the shysters making money from their hard work. The crew that boned me was <support@mail.tv.org> and I still have a printout of my lifetime membership for $27. This is one thing about the internet that sucks, I can't believe that the feds haven't cracked down on thieves like these people.

Ah Baddbob, because LW has NO patent (sort of), the scammers can take advantage of them. See http://www.limewire.org/ to see what open source means Bottom feeders like scammers love to exploit idealists, sadly .

Anyway, I keep paying for the real version of LimeWire. That's my little way of flipping the bird at the scammers.

nearly got me...
 

when i was researching limewire (heard it was good but wasnt quite sure), i came across this site. i thought at first it was the UK site for limewire (i typed limewire.co.uk in the addy bar on internet explorer) but closer inspection proved it wasnt. i decided to stick with the site with "limewire" plastered all over it!

limewire.org is the official page for the development side of Limewire. It is reached via the main page of Limewire.com through the open source button. typing in the address limewire.co.uk takes you to a search engine that seems to come up with legitimate results.... I think.

Refund from scam site
 

I signed up for the 2 year membership from mp3share.us which cost £15 plus £9 for some spyware software that I didn't want.
After reading the posts on this site I realised I'd been scammed, so contacted my bank, who said they wouldn't or couldn't stop the payment and that I'd need to contact the company I'd bought it from.

It was a long shot, but I called the company (long distance) and was amazed when they said they'd give me a full refund! There was an admin charge of £7, but that's way better than the £24 I'd thought I'd lost forever. They sent me a receipt too. They must know they're scamming everyone 'cos they didn't even attempt argue when I asked for my money back.

Now I've just gotta wait til the the money materialises! (And see how much they fleeced me for that phone call to customer services). Watch this space...

I too have been taken in. Don't really believe I will get a refund, especially if I have to telephone the U.S. but they may take the admin fee

I lost my money here;
http://www.moviemembersarea.com/index.asp

Have been unable to get back to the sign up page although they did advertise a full refund if not completely satisfied.
One born every minute.

http://www.mymusicnow.cc/eng/home.php

Another scam site and another sucker.

Such is life.


Alan

I purchased Limewire through My Music Inc. for $24.95. I'm beginning to think this might be a scam when I found out that I could d/l Limewire free from their web site.
I'm wondering if there is a contract with Limewire and with these music sites or is it a scam? If so, what is Limewire doing about it?
I'm requesting a refund from My Music. Inc.
I would rather invest in the Pro version from Limewire.
This site did not advertise Limewire as their downloadable version, so I was surprised when Limewire appeared on my screen afterI paid.

Alan...you and I got suckered by the sae web site...My Music.
Their e-mail states they provide a 30 day refund, which I have requested, but might be difficult as they originate in Canada

eaglebrookfarm

Helps, knowing im not alone. Ty.

I requeted a refund about a week back, but no reply.

Im ok about the money loss, but i do wanna shut them down somehow. Any thoughts anyone?

Alan

Alan.....Looks like we are not alone. I've written them and promised to carry their fraudulent pratice to the FBI and In'l Trade Commisssion, telling them that being in Canada will not stop us!

This may or may not help: get your $$$ BACK!!! (music members)

Eaglebrookfarm said: "I'm wondering if there is a contract with Limewire and with these music sites or is it a scam? If so, what is Limewire doing about it?"

No there is no contract, and if you can think of a way for Limewire to stop them PLEASE let them know!

The problem is that the buyers who get Limewire off the scam sites, have never heard of Limewire, or they would get it from the official site. And the Scam sites have your credit card details before you know you are getting Limewire and not the site's own software.

another scam
 

I signed up for Limewire on the official site (I just checked it again) but I had to pay for it. 2 yr membershipfor $1.45 month; 4 yr membership for $.95 month or $49.95 lifetime. naturally, I bought the lifetime and it shows up on my credit card as Clickbank. I sent them an e-mail requesting my $$ back, and will go to my bank tomorrow to fill out a form to somehow retrieve the $$ as I doubt I will hear back from them. they are www.clickbank.com and they even sent me a receipt with an order #.

If you are quite sure you signed up at the official site, you could well have been hijacked from it. The post Hijacked in the following thread explains

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...ghlight=hijack

hey there is a zip file under the name of Waylon Jenning's song Delia's gone and it's a trojan horse virus and this one has got 3 in one in it, three different ones , phew luckly for me I got avg and it took care of it, although for awhile there I was getting real nervous and sick as a dog thinking avg wasn't gonna take it away because I'm not the only member of the house to use the computer and my mum gets real pissed when I get a virus that can't be taken away, could somebody please tell who ever is in charge for file sharing at limewire so they can take that jerk offline , I mean that is a real doozy it's a power out one , and two others, I dont' even know what they do, sorry for the long post I'm babbling on because I'm still a little bit nerve shot from getting that damn thing , oops excuse my language , I mean it was the first time (and the last) that I ever in my life opened a zip file , and I was doing waylon Jennings and that was the only song I couldn't get so knuckle-head me goes and opens up the dang thing and wammy .
ok I'm gonna quite now because thinking about it only making me wanna go up-chuck that's how nervous my stomach is,lol
thinking I was about to be in deep do-do from my mother and she gets mean as hell when she can't get on her msn game zone to play hearts and spades,lol

again sorry for the long post, lol