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salut et voilà, mon ami

As soon as people realize that using or connecting to a LW version above 4.9.29 gets them into a controlled network, they will ask "where can we get an older version?"

We should share the installers that will help users remain freely connected.

(ultracross: ) 4.9.30 is already controlled by fewer ultrapeers, so I will participate only in a network of 4.9.29 Ultrapeers or earlier. I plan to ask for vendor/version blocking to help keep a free and open international network.

When the network consisted of 150K users, this still allowed much development to continue, and there is still lots of work to do before Mark Gorton's vision of an open and free network is realized.

gnutella is far from dead: we should encourage and facilitate those interested in F/LOSS to only use 4.29 and earlier. This will preserve the current network and provide an option to the controlled network.

Personally, I like the idea of ridding the network of all that audio crap Vive la texte et les images! Pardon my French.

LOTR: currently only audio files will be affected, but the code is ready to not share other extensions too. As far as I'm concerned, that's not the issue. It's that LW has been pressured into allowing the RIAA to exert influence over material and people outside of the USA. What hackers! "All your files belong to US " Yeah right.

So: can you experts tell me this? Will sharing my 4.9.29 Pro.dmg be any use to other OS X users? I'm currently sharing LimeWire 4.9.29jum431 OS X (magnet available on request).
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Salut Stief Good idea about sharing 4.9.30 installers. I'll do that. As soon as frostwire.com is set up and has installers, I'll be sure that it gets a forum here so people can discuss and find an alternative with all the greatness of LW technology minus that CC branch.

Gnutella will survive, but boy those time with excess of 3,5 mill simultaneous users (again with trap_jaw crawler) will feel long ago and weird compared to what's coming. It is like 2002 Gnutella all over again

at least, LW forks will still keep LW technology alive, thanks to GPL and open source dev.

I will come here less often, because I'm really sad thinking about what we've been going through just to waste a proggy like that. Moreover, I lost faith in justice and freedom

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I'm sure there's a no. of people who have older version installers lying around. I have 4.8.1 pro for pc & mac, I probably also have earlier & later for both around as well. This sort of breaks/kills that attitude of getting rid of older versions for the health & progression of the network. I presume versions above 4 are sought. (Thanks Stief for the explanation.)
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LOTR, I'm trying to find out if it is OK to share the Pro installer . . . but the LimeWire 4.9.29jum431 OS X.dmg is OK. After all, it is almost the equivalent to Pro.

Users just need to search for and share "29jum.dmg" so that OSX users can participate in the current open network internationally. Thanks in advance to the windows users who share the jum installer: much appreciated.

Other options should be available soon: this is something we can do now.

There really is no big rush: this is just to demonstrate that the network is still free and open, and that the ideals of limewire.org can continue.

Cheers all and happy sharing: no need to despair about justice and freedom
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Slyck story: http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=14427

About Pro sharing... Well I would not share Pro installers right now, but I'll consider it once they release 4.9.31.

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Here goes Grandpa being stupid again but I am thinking of setting one of my computers up to do nothing but run as a UP and share nothing but good copies of the all the different OS versions of LimeWire.

I am no programmer so how would I go about getting good copies of 4.9.29 since the current version is .30 and would not be able to tell if the versions I get from the network are corrupted or not.
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LW can be sued. They will try to avoid that by not allowing shaing of unlicensed files (99,99% of files, even 90% of legal files don't have a lisence). That means that the next version of LW will kill LW itself because nothing will be available (you can look into the new code at limewire.org). Really sad. Whenever LW realeases a new update, DON'T UPGRADE! Or switch to another P2P client.

There will be LW forks... But LW is dead. Dead.

BS is dead and now LW, Gnutella will suffer a lot in the next year

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this whole thing is very, very disturbing...

it looks like only major record labels are going to be able to distribute stuff in the near future...ppl like me, who without a doubt own all legal rights to their materials, will be unable to use the internet to freely distribute their works...what a farking joke...

just more proof that there is indeed a conspiracy to take over and control the world...who are the conspirators?...the rich of course, who else?
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good idea GrandPa. I've already provided the search term needed for a reliable OS X installer; et voilà and other would know about other platforms. Just get the magnets from them.

and the story is out on http://p2pnet.net/story/6365 too.

Sigh. Lots of FUD to deal with soon.

The network is fine; current installations are fine; alternatives for future installers are available.
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Peerless, I'll continue to share your music, and have no idea yet what kinds of hoops we'll have to jump through. Actually, I don't think I'll bother, but will just continue sharing it if that's OK with you.
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I prefer the story out now then people realizing it when 4.9.31 is out. People are being warned and an appropriate measure can be taken more easily. Same thing with FUD, we'll avoid some since those stories are out.

hé Stief, nous sommes sur P2Pnet

I'm beginning my hunt for 4.9.30 installers (4.9.30 is better for the network density --and search results-- than 4.9.29)

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