blocking non-file sharring ussers

[ultracross]

welcome to the forum yoopersister! hope you find it as comfortable here as i do!

[yoopersister]

Hello, I am relatively new to Limewire (2 weeks), and I am learning quite a lot. I have read with interest the threads regarding blocking someone from downloading from you if they don't share files.

When I first started using limewire, I didn't even know people could upload from my computer. Since learning that, I have gone into options and set it up as well as fixing my firewall to allow it.

To address the issue of connection speeds, I have a 56K modem, dial up, but my dial up speed is only 24k. According to my ISP, this is due to the antiquated wiring in this area, and is the best I can expect.

It does not stop me from allowing people to upload, it just is terminally slow. They say patience is a virtue. So, please, have some with us. Perhaps the people you are trying to access are also new at this and just haven't learned yet.

Browse Host? I tried it, sometimes I am succesfull and sometimes not. Just discovered inserting IP's into direct connect last night, and used my brothers number, who downloaded limewire the same time I did. Sometimes I was able to access his list and sometimes I was not. He said he had to try about 12 times to get into mine.

So I do not think blocking someone just because you cannot get into their computer is a good thing. Maybe this also just takes patience.

I would like to thank all of you for all the wonderful music I have been able to obtain since I found Limewire. And am happy to share it all with anyone.

And I am trying to read part of the Forum daily to gather all the info I can regarding this great thing called Limewire.

[Only A Hobo]

Originally posted by ultracross
i wouldnt be suprized if i have been banned by other people because i have a large upload queue and it would appear that im not sharing at all. because when my upload slots are full, its nearly impossible to browse host someone.

Oops I better un-ban you Actually there is not a great deal to be gained from banning people as I know in my case my ip no. is different every time I look at it.
If someone queues an inordinate amount of stuff, and I cannot for the life of me get their ip no to show up on any files I calculate that he might be sharing, I will ban him if I'm in a bad mood, and I think we all feel like that sometimes. I do however have a feeling that some people will share with a different ip no than they download. Perhaps someone at work downloading on his lap top and sharing on his work computer.

There are 2 sides to this question and after reading this thread, I might just sit on the fence.
and where I have said he read he/she

[Nasphreak29]

well...i have been useing limewire forsome time now and i do not share all my files i do share most of them to anyone who wants them. the only files i do not share arevideos becuase they take to long to upload and make my downloads really slow

[ultracross]

not a great deal to be gained indeed, but this is not the perception the normal user of limewire thinks. they think that when they ban someone, they are keeping the non-filesharers out of the network. well the download mesh has a high resistance to people being banned if the file is popular enough. (btw i have a static ip, so i must be banned for life )

[TomLa]

At first when I couldn't upload files from someone I thought they were just being stingy. I didn't really understand the mechanics of Limewire or P2P in general but now it sounds as though there are several reasons that can keep someone from getting files from other users. I'll not ban anyone else from getting my files whether I can scan them or not. Thanks for the info.

[mstfyd]

Originally posted by TomLa
I thought Deacon72 made a good point as to why some users may not share files, because they have a slow dial-up instead of a highspeed internet but the more I think about it some of those same people, who don't share their files, upload my files at way to fast of a pace for them to be using a dial-up network. So that can only mean that they just choose to not share files. I think I will look at each member individually and make a decision as to whether or not they are stingy. Those people I will use your way of blocking them. Thanks alot.

They might be afraid that the PTB will view their library, & they would be the next public example. Ethically though, that really should mean you shouldn't participate at all.

When I was on dialup, I never even thought about not sharing due to speed issues. Like that tv rotisserie, you just set it and forget it (usually overnight). Most of the time I'm sure people chose a faster connection source, if one was available. Unless a file is rare, I doubt anyone would pass by a cable or T1, & head straight for the modem . So its pretty rare for a modem to get swamped, even with larger files.

[deacon72]

I've been sharing since 1998 when Napster was getting a start. I know that I have never contributed an original piece to share but have always shared what I downloaded. I was on dialup (28.8)back then and had a 486 100 mhz overdrive with 72 mb RAM and a 2.1 HDD. Damn I was in my glory. If some of the "oldsters" had banned me back then as a newbie, I wouldn't be able to share what I do today. Contrary to what Sphinx said, there was an overabundence of folks who didn't share as attested to in the Napster Forums. But The network grew to over 80 MILLION REGISTERED USERS. Many past, present and future apps may vie for the title but I don't think any will ever achieve the popularity of the "KING". I checked some of the people who seem to be sharing "viruses" (851.7 mb zip files) and some of the spammers (106.8 wmv and the other ipod ads) and would have banned them except for the fact they, i believe, had no idea of what they were doing. (for the most part that is)
So I figure as long as I know what I am downloading and what I am sharing (Bitzi searches, verified d/ls, virus scans, and spyware/ adware programs) I won't ban or block anyone. They just may (and some have) share a file I need to make my collections complete.

As someone else is so fond of saying Thanks for the files.

[ultracross]

@ mstfyd

if you dont give back what you take, then you shouldnt be taking. right? if you dont want to share the illegal content with everyone else, then why do you download it? the model of p2p: only take what you are willing to give back. give more than you are willing to take. generosity is the key to make any p2p network successful and grow. selfishness, greedyness and leeches have no place in this p2p model and will only help destroy it.

I really have to weigh in on this issue.

For about 2 years, I've enjoyed the use of limewire, getting music files I couldn't find elsewhere, and countless other songs I enjoy listening to.

I'd love to share, have a cable connection, BUT...

I'm 16 years old, and obviously, still live with my parents. Therefore; In the event I was sued for sharing, my parents would be the target of the lawsuit. I'm not going to put my parents at risk because of my actions.

So please, just share. There are freeloaders out there, but plenty of people who have legitimate reasons not to share. You can't distinguish between them from behind a computer screen.

[ultracross]

@ A Dude, do i really have to repeat this?

if you dont give back what you take, then you shouldnt be taking. right? if you dont want to share the illegal content with everyone else, then why do you download it?

[TomLa]

A Dude are you serious? Do you really think others should share files with you and you not do the same???? You need to wake up.

[CaptainFailure]

I know a lot of college kids use limewire, like myself I think It would be nice to be able to search everyone on my ethernet connection since it's much faster..instead of just getting a few result you could have one way to search the whole thing and browse everyone at my school's files that way I could download easier and quicker

[mstfyd]

Originally posted by ultracross
@ mstfyd

if you dont give back what you take, then you shouldnt be taking. right? if you dont want to share the illegal content with everyone else, then why do you download it? the model of p2p: only take what you are willing to give back. give more than you are willing to take. generosity is the key to make any p2p network successful and grow. selfishness, greedyness and leeches have no place in this p2p model and will only help destroy it.

[B]This is directed atme? Is there anything in my post which states or implies that I do not share?

I don't think so.

I'm no freeloader, and never have been.

[Extreme Halo 2 fan]

Personally, I hate freeloaders too but there is an option in tools where you can block freeloaders. I share about 1,300 files and have dsl