safe site eh?

this is a site that supports the use of various gnutella clients...this site does not host any files...

now..if you want my recommendation as to what client to use...that would be in the first post of this thread

No, No, No! Didn't you mean this one! (click on link). The instructions are much more accurate & specific to the instructions! :rofl:

I installed the BS25 and tried to run it using the BearStart program, but it keeps saying "this version has expired." I thought BearStart was supposed to prevent that...? Any advice?

Re-read the instructions. You initially need to turn the clock back. After that it should be fine.

Quote: "Instead of starting BearShare the usual way, double click on the BearStart program and it should start the currently installed version of BearShare for you after setting the system date back to July 1st, 2005 for a few seconds while BearShare is starting up. The system date is put back to todays date automatically after a few seconds and the program ends while BearShare thinks it is July 1st while checking the expiry date and proceeds to run normally. It recognises the correct date after a few seconds and proceeds to work as normal."

I get from that that the program should change the clock back. Here's what pops up when I click on BearStart:

"This little utility will set the date to July 1st, 2005 start the installed version of BearShare, pause 10 seconds, and then put the date back to today."

When I press OK to continue, it still says "Key Expired: this copy of BearShare has expired." I am working on a laptop, and I can't change the date on my system manually because I apparently "do not have the authority."

You probably have BearShare starting up with Windows when it boots up.
Naturally, since BearStart didn't get the chance to clear the way for you,
BearShare expires.

Since you are obviously not running with Admin privileges the first thing you
should do is log in as an admin and open the User Accounts control panel
applet to change your account type to Computer Administrator.

Now log in to your usual account and change your date back to July 1 2005 manually,

start BearShare manually,

go to the Setup/Options tab and remove the checkmark from
"Launch BearShare on System Startup".

Change your date back to normal.

Open the properties page for the shortcut you use to launch BearShare with
and edit the Target line from bearshare.exe to bearstart.exe.

You can now change your account type back to "Limited User" again if you wish.

That should clear up the expiry problem permanently.

Thank you for your help! I did try to make myself an admin, but I found out that I already am. Since I still could not change the date/time, I made a new admin account to see if that one would work. That account didn't work either, so I'm just assuming that it's a flaw in my computer. I also tried using the "ghost" admin account, since I have Windows XP, but I couldn't change it on that one either. I don't know what else to do, so I'm just going to give up for now, I suppose. Oh well, thank you anyways! :idea:

There's another way to fix the startup issue, if that's what it is.
Open Regedit and drill down to:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\Curr entVersion\Run

If you see BearShare in there, delete it.

Once that's out of the way hit control-alt-delete, go to the Processes tab,
right-click BearShare and select "End Process". BearStart should be able to
start it now, unless someone has set a policy blocking you from the date and
time entirely.

To remove that policy it's a lot easier if you are using XP Pro.
You didn't mention which version of XP you have there.

I highly recommend a freeware program called TweakAll. Among other handy features, it allows the user to view and modify (change/remove/add) the startup files. This is much easier than manually editing the registry.

Aaron, I tried both of those processes, and I didn't see anything even resembling BearShare in either spot. Would that be a bad thing or a good thing?

Rowsdower, I am going to try your program next. Thank you both for all of your help!

P.S. Are you an MST3K fan?...

Yes, I sure am! To enhance the reference, I just added Rowsdower's handsome face as my avatar.

That means BearShare wasn't starting with Windows and expiring before you could use BearStart.

You need to take control of your own computer. Somebody has illegally stolen
your right to set your own clock and you need to take it back.

Which version of XP do you have?

What the crap? I just bought this laptop like 2 weeks ago! I haven't lent it to anyone... my C drive wipes itself clean every time my computer shuts off, that way I won't get viruses, so I save things to the D drive. Called the "Deep Freeze" I believe. Anything else weird about this computer? Hmm...

I have Windows XP Media Edition.

YEAH!! I love Rowsdower. "Oh no, I don't go map-finding-behinding..." :p

Try going into Control Panel, run Administrative Tools and then run Services.
Look for the Windows Time service, open it, hit the Stop button and then set
it's startup type to Disabled. Can you set the time now?

No, it still says I don't have the proper privilege. Do I need to restart my computer?

That version of Windows must have been heavily crippled to prevent all
possibility of people actually exercising their Fair Use rights. I wouldn't be
surprised if the standard policy editing software was left out too.

Try the last 5.1 version of BearShare instead. 5.1.0.28 should work.

I use Limewire now anyway, switched a long time ago. :)

i downloaded the old version of Bear share and its still downling those files is ther anything in the prefrences where i can download MP3's?

"those files" ?

Not Mp3 files those other files wma or sumtin idk
any way i can fix it?

There should be no reason you can't find MP3 files. What version of BearShare do you have?

If it is 5.2 you need to switch to 5.1. See the first post in this thread. If you
already have 5.1 go to Setup/Filters and make sure MP3 is not in the lists.
While you're there, add WMA, WMP, WMV, M4P and ASF to the list on the
right side. Those are the types of files that can be infected with DRM and viruses.

Unable to download Bearstart Utility
 

I have tried several times to download the Bearstart Utility from the following: http://www.technutopia.com/forum/showpost.php?p=15322

Did I miss some instructions? Any assistance would be appreciated.

Tarheel

Worked for me. Try this one instead: BearStart

Aaronwalkhouse - Thanks for the info. Worked great. I'm back on.

Thanks again.

Tarheel

It feels that limewire is starting to do the same thing. For example i will be downloading great at about 30KB\s and all of a sudden all downloads drop down to 0KB\s and finally i have to wait in line all over again. And even when it picks up it is very slow. What used to take me 2 hours to download a movie file is now taking 2-3 days. Any suggestions, please help me.


XP SP2
512 ram
2.4gz cpu

You're in the BearShare forum :lmao:

Use the forum search to look for speed dropping, slow download speed or something similar.

Try downloading a file from here & see what speed you get
http://www.magnetmix.com/video.shtml

I think Shareaza (Raza) hosts can sometimes boot you back down the queue

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...t=waiting+line
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...t=waiting+line

Any ideas AaronWalkhouse? I ran the BearStart utility. This problem has happened to me with all version 5 BearShares. The only version I've been able to run was version 6 which is obviously a different program design. I'm running Windows 2000 on VPC.
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It shouldn't be possible at all in a virtual machine.
Try booting it into Win2K natively instead.

lol :D Going to buy me a pc machine? I can run raza, LW, FW, Gnucleus, various DC progs ... why not BS? What else can I run ... most adobe products, M$ ...

I keep getting an error whenever i try any type of bearshare other than that sucky version 6. i get through all the installation, but when i get to Would you kile to run bearshare now?...Stuff begins to **** me off.

Here's what it says

"this program has been damaged, possibly by a bad sector of the hard drive or a virus. Please reinstall it"

I scanned countless times, it worked for a damn good while after 6 came out and now....Ugh..Any tips?

I'm hearing from other AOL users that this was caused by a buggy update to
that AOL Security Center software. It might have misidentified a virus inside
BearShare and tried to remove it, damaging the program instead.

Well, is there any way to fix it? I really hate the new bearshare and wanna use the one i came in with.

BTW does AOL Security Center affect BearShare in the same way it affects LimeWire? For LW it misidentifies it & attempts to remove it. Perhaps Bearshare should be put on its 'safe list'!!! I believe AOL security uses Pestpatrol & it incorrectly identifies p2p programs as spyware even if they don't possess it. But then, I wouldn't be surprised if some BS versions do have it ... such as version 6. ;) :D

Uninstall the AOL Security Center and then find the Pest Patrol folder in Program
Files and delete that folder manually. After a reboot it should be safe, so go to
the first post in this thread, download BearShare 5.1.0b25 and BearStart and
install them into a brand new folder.

I found it, CA Pest Patrol Realtime Protection. Only thing with pest patrol in the name on my comp. That it?

....I had bad experiences with this kinda thing before....Wanna be sure before i fry my comp from the inside.


---Edit:Tried it......Didnt work. Still got that blasted error.

After you removed pest Patrol, did you make sure to reboot and delete the remnants?

If not, it could have remained active and damaged your brand new install as it
was in progress. In any case, you should completely delete the damaged
BearShare folder before trying again. Sometimes installing over top of an
existing folder fails to replace damaged files, particularly if the damaged files
look newer to the installer program or if a buggy security program is still active
and interfering.

Another fellow came to Technutopia yesterday and succeeded with this same
problem, so it is possible.

Don't forget to uninstall that AOL Security Center and reboot if you didn't do
that yet. It has been identified as a likely culprit too.

Kk. Trying again

Hi,

I installed the version in post 1 and BS connects great. Only trouble is the key expired thing.

If I close BS and then open it again, the key expired pop up comes up. So I change my clock back to 01/07/05 and can then open BS. Once it's opened I change the date back to today's date and it runs ok.

But this means that every time I want to open BS then I have to change the date back to '05 first and then back to '07 once it's opened.

Is there a way around this so I don't have to keep switching the date?

Thanks

You have to use BearStart every time. Change the shortcut you used to start
BearShare to point to BearStart instead.

That's great. Cheers.

seems like this is the place to ask something ...
 

well i had bearshare and accidently removed it, cause a spywar program was on aotumatic qurrenteen or remove or something, and it deleted the bearshare and the installer. and well i cant install the new one the number 6 of bearshare. and i downloaded from too many site to even think about DL it again. but the version i had worked perfectly. perfect DL time, and sources most of the time.

it had zango
it had my global search (search engine tab)
and hidden had whenUsave
and something else i forget or maybe not idk

I've had it for like idk a year more or less
and i honestly really need it to download music, shows, videos, files, movies etc. and i just remembered the version before the one i deleted is that i couldn't change the connection numbers, like when bearshare is open, go to setup-connection tab, and says dsl, modem, and so forth. i think I'm pretty sure the previous version couldn't customize that connection part. so from what ever version that one is, til the version before bearshare 6 is the version i need to find out. if its not too much trouble, maybe list the versions of bearshare within the last year or so (no lite versions) but to get the one i discribed would be the purpose of this message.

well i just registered, and i dont know how long it will take, but thanks in advance to any replies concerning this one ....
:bangh: :bangh: :bangh: :bangh: :bangh: :bangh:

well i got one that seems to work ok, except for downloading time, realy sux big time, 250 sources and its either not downloading or its on 1 ytransfer connection. what do i do, i have bearshare 525 lite, and downloading time really stinks

if i decide to buy bearshare pro will i have the same problems like these?

last time I tried bearshare it filled my system full of spyware no thanks.

That's one of the reasons why I recommend the beta.
No added software of any kind. Get it from the top post. :cool:

The fact people are moaning about crapware/poor performance in the thread that clearly helps get round the particular issues, I find rather ironic. :blink:

BearShare 'test' and BearStart is the only version that a person needs. (As Aaron has stated more times than I can count.) And by all means still the best Gnutella client. :dance:

not moaning just stating fact

You forgot to mention which version you are moaning about and where you got it. :p

The beta and BearStart combination is the cleanest and most powerful gnutella
software that has ever existed, or likely will ever exist, and that is a fact.
Try it and see. :cool:

So I did as you suggested and the program seems to work although it crashes every now and then. Are all the files downloaded from the version unprotected? And I saw that there is no log in so does this mean I can cancel my membership to V6?. The interface is not as cool as V6 but if its free and works I guess who the hell cares!:xeri_ok1ani: