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Old April 29th, 2002
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Angry T3 Confusion

If you don't serve at T3 speeds, then please do not report your speed as T3. It asks for your speed not type of connection. Thanks.

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loser, most ppl who report themselves as t3 are on lans and restrict their downloads. if you don't know that and can't find "true" t3 downloads, i doubt you even know how to use a computer much less "hack my little box"
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Old April 30th, 2002
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You miss the point of my admittedly overly angry post which I kinda-sorta thought might draw the response from a masked perp or two. I will make it a bit more velveeta for you sensitive types. Anyway...let me break it down for you in a way that even you could understand. So, you say most ppl that report a T3 connection are on a local area network. So...that would mean that they are on a supposed T3 line at a university "milking the system" via a Mac/Linux/Windoze box. Probably not a high school (most don't have the budget) or a business (the staff would find out very quick what misery the unemployment line holds for them when the admin. checks the log). Anyway, just for your information...campus-based university students typically have access to ISDN, direct T1 and FT3 (the latter 2 being the norm), with a few of the upper echelon universities shelling out for the full T3 connection. And those being typically LAN based, the norm have a bandwidth per user on average of 8-12k/sec maximum visible transfer rate during peak hours depending on how many clients. And of course, they limit their u/l bandwidth when it serves at a snails pace! So first, get your facts straight and then know that I was stating that Limewire asks for your connection speed, not type! 8-12k/sec does not equate to T3 speeds. Have a nice day, junior! It's a good idea you remain anon. And to the rest of you...Please, just report your rough actual speeds, not type of connection, so that the other users do not have to sift through the mud trying to find a fast server! You still get full search ops. Thanks
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If you don't serve at T3 speeds, then please do not report your speed as T3. It asks for your speed not type of connection. Thanks.
I see what you mean, but with all due respect, don't get your expectations high when it comes to an "accurate" let alone "honest" speed registration. Sure, it'll be easier for downloaders to select a faster connection if all of us have an agreed understanding of the "type/speed of connection."

But as you've mentioned, things aren't as stable as we want them to be. My server (in Europe) provides me with T3 connection, but some hours of the day, transfer wouldn't go beyond 10k, and then all of a sudden I witness an amazing 248k. The "actual speed" depends on too many factors for us to give an accurate "speed report". So if you are like me, you'll end up registering the "potential" speed (which more or less means the "type" rather than "speed" of the connection). So, when you see T3, it means the connections has a "potential" of getting up to T3 speed.

And of course, many of those on a T3 connection won't be registering as T3 anyway. They register as "Modem" for some obvious reason (yeah, to avoid access overload). In fact, you'll have a better chance getting a high-speed transfer with someone registering as "Modem", I dare say.

I know this can be pain in your back, but hey, no pain no gain. And if you insist you need to get the record straight, you always have the option of "chatting" with the other side accusing him/her of false/inaccurate connection report (I can't guarantee you a pleasant dialog though).
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Old April 30th, 2002
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I'm pretty sure it's understood that limewire is asking for connection type rather than average speed. "Modem" is not a speed, nor is "DSL/Cable."

I am on DSL. Last night I FTP-connected with an "OC-82" (I think that's the name) owned by an ISP. On this connection, which should have maxed out my speed, I uploaded at 15kb/s and downloaded at 40kb/s.

In the past, using limewire, I have uploaded at 30kb/s and downloaded at around 150kb/s.

Therefore:
1. Even this identified, huge-speed server wasn't maxing out my download. So, I assume that some of the reported T3 connections are really T3's.

2. Upload and download speeds vary greatly. So what connection type would I use if I was reporting actual speed?



Despite these inaccuracies, I agree with you! Nearly everyone seems to lie about their connection type and this is annoying. If I choose a green, T3 host, I expect to download at more than 1.5kb/s.

Modem users think that with more connections they will locate more files, so they put in "T3" to try to fool the system. However, Limewire limits the number of connections so that your connection works optimally. Lots of connections may give more choices, but will slow your download speed.

T3 users sometimes masquerade as modem users to disuade uploads. However, since you can set the amount of uploads and designate your upload percentage, this makes no sense.

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Old February 13th, 2003
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Default T3's et al

Greetings,

As per your discussion, I don't want to cause any confusion/frustration to other users.

I have just purchased a Broadband 576kb ADSL Modem. I have no idea what to register my connection speed as. Can anyone tell me if it should be Cable, T1 or T3?

Thanks

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Old February 13th, 2003
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try http://bandwidthplace.com/ to test the actual speed of your connection. They also have info comparing the different kinds of equipment used. You probably just want to set your preferences for "cable."
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Old February 13th, 2003
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Thanks Stief....that'ssorted it for me.

J
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Old February 13th, 2003
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You're welcome--happy sharing.
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Old March 4th, 2005
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Default re the diff speeds

i am new to limewire and i have dsl. i noticed that you have all of these different speeds and i was wondering what the difference is between them. i mean should i pick one over another for faster downloads or are should i just download dsl/cable options only...........i mean how does it work?? sorry if this is a lil off your subject but i really am confused lol..........thank you in advance and have a nice day!!!! also on files what does it mean when they say pot cam??

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