Gnutella Forums  

Go Back   Gnutella Forums > Current Gnutella Client Forums > LimeWire+WireShare (Cross-platform) > Open Discussion topics
Register FAQ The Twelve Commandments Members List Calendar Arcade Find the Best VPN Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Open Discussion topics Discuss the time of day, whatever you want to. This is the hangout area. If you have LimeWire problems, post them here too.


Welcome To Gnutella Forums

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most discussions and access our other features. By joining our free community you will have access to post topics, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload content, fun aspects such as the image caption contest and play in the arcade, and access many other special features after your registration and email confirmation. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please, join our community today! (click here) (Note: we use Yandex mail server so make sure yandex is not on your email filter or blocklist.)

If you have any problems with the Gnutella Forum registration process or your Gnutella Forum account login, please contact us (this is not for program use questions.) Your email address must be legitimate and verified before becoming a full member of the forums. Please be sure to disable any spam filters you may have for our website, so that email messages can reach you.
Note: Any other issue with registration, etc., send a Personal Message (PM) to one of the active Administrators: Lord of the Rings or Birdy.

Once registered but before posting, members MUST READ the FORUM RULES (click here) and members should include System details - help us to help you (click on blue link) in their posts if their problem relates to using the program. Whilst forum helpers are happy to help where they can, without these system details your post might be ignored. And wise to read How to create a New Thread

Thank you

If you are a Spammer click here.
This is not a business advertising forum, all member profiles with business advertising will be banned, all their posts removed. Spamming is illegal in many countries of the world. Guests and search engines cannot view member profiles.



           Deutsch?              Español?                  Français?                   Nederlands?
   Hilfe in Deutsch,   Ayuda en español,   Aide en français et LimeWire en françaisHulp in het Nederlands

Forum Rules

Support Forums

Before you post to one of the specific Client Help and Support Conferences in Gnutella Client Forums please look through other threads and Stickies that may answer your questions. Most problems are not new. The Search function is most useful. Also the red Stickies have answers to the most commonly asked questions. (over 90 percent).
If your problem is not resolved by a search of the forums, please take the next step and post in the appropriate forum. There are many members who will be glad to help.
If you are new to the world of file sharing please do not be shy! Everyone was ‘new’ when they first started.

When posting, please include details for:
Your Operating System ....... Your version of your Gnutella Client (* this is important for helping solve problems) ....... Your Internet connection (56K, Cable, DSL) ....... The exact error message, if one pops up
Any other relevant information that you think may help ....... Try to make your post descriptive, specific, and clear so members can quickly and efficiently help you. To aid helpers in solving download/upload problems, LimeWire and Frostwire users must specify whether they are downloading a torrent file or a file from the Gnutella network.
Members need to supply these details >>> System details - help us to help you (click on blue link)


Moderators

There are senior members on the forums who serve as Moderators. These volunteers keep the board organized and moving.
Moderators are authorized to: (in order of increasing severity)
Move posts to the correct forums. Many times, members post in the wrong forum. These off-topic posts may impede the normal operation of the forum.
Edit posts. Moderators will edit posts that are offensive or break any of the House Rules.
Delete posts. Posts that cannot be edited to comply with the House Rules will be deleted.
Restrict members. This is one of the last punishments before a member is banned. Restrictions may include placing all new posts in a moderation queue or temporarily banning the offender.
Ban members. The most severe punishment. Three or more moderators or administrators must agree to the ban for this action to occur. Banning is reserved for very severe offenses and members who, after many warnings, fail to comply with the House Rules. Banning is permanent. Bans cannot be removed by the moderators and probably won't be removed by the administration.


The Rules

1. Warez, copyright violation, or any other illegal activity may NOT be linked or expressed in any form. Topics discussing techniques for violating these laws and messages containing locations of web sites or other servers hosting illegal content will be silently removed. Multiple offenses will result in consequences. File names are not required to discuss your issues. If filenames are copyright then do not belong on these forums & will be edited out or post removed. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

2. Spamming and excessive advertising will not be tolerated. Commercial advertising is not allowed in any form, including using in signatures.

3. There will be no excessive use of profanity in any forum.

4. There will be no racial, ethnic, or gender based insults, or any other personal attacks.

5. Pictures may be attached to posts and signatures if they are not sexually explicit or offensive. Picture sample attachments in posts must not include copyright infringement.

6. Remember to post in the correct forum. Take your time to look at other threads and see where your post will go. If your post is placed in the wrong forum it will be moved by a moderator. There are specific Gnutella Client sections for LimeWire, Phex, FrostWire, BearShare, Gnucleus, Morpheus, and many more. Please choose the correct section for your problem.

7. If you see a post in the wrong forum or in violation of the House Rules, please contact a moderator via Private Message or the "Report this post to a moderator" link at the bottom of every post. Please do not respond directly to the member - a moderator will do what is required.

8. Any impersonation of a forum member in any mode of communication is strictly prohibited and will result in banning.

9. Multiple copies of the same post will not be tolerated. Post your question, comment, or complaint only once. There is no need to express yourself more than once. Duplicate posts will be deleted with little or no warning. Keep in mind a forum censor may temporarily automatically hold up your post, if you do not see your post, do not post again, it will be dealt with by a moderator within a reasonable time. Authors of multiple copies of same post may be dealt with by moderators within their discrete judgment at the time which may result in warning or infraction points, depending on severity as adjudged by the moderators online.

10. Posts should have descriptive topics. Vague titles such as "Help!", "Why?", and the like may not get enough attention to the contents.

11. Do not divulge anyone's personal information in the forum, not even your own. This includes e-mail addresses, IP addresses, age, house address, and any other distinguishing information. Don´t use eMail addresses in your nick. Reiterating, do not post your email address in posts. This is for your own protection.

12. Signatures may be used as long as they are not offensive or sexually explicit or used for commercial advertising. Commercial weblinks cannot be used under any circumstances and will result in an immediate ban.

13. Dual accounts are not allowed. Cannot explain this more simply. Attempts to set up dual accounts will most likely result in a banning of all forum accounts.

14. Video links may only be posted after you have a tally of two forum posts. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam. Video link posting with less than a 2 post tally are considered as spam.

15. Failure to show that you have read the forum rules may result in forum rules breach infraction points or warnings awarded against you which may later total up to an automatic temporary or permanent ban. Supplying system details is a prerequisite in most cases, particularly with connection or installation issues.

Violation of any of these rules will bring consequences, determined on a case-by-case basis.


Thank You! Thanks for taking the time to read these forum guidelines. We hope your visit is helpful and mutually beneficial to the entire community.


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old September 4th, 2005
asdfgh1224's Avatar
Limewire beta tester 4.22
 
Join Date: August 9th, 2005
Location: USA,PA,EAST COAST
Posts: 119
asdfgh1224 is flying high
Exclamation is it legal? Some things arnt... an advanced U.S P2P legal guide

Regarding move copyright infrigment:

THE LAW

The Copyright Act of 1976 gives the U.S. some of the strongest anti-piracy legislation in the world. The Act was amended in 1982, substantially increasing the penalties for the illegal duplication of copyrighted material, making such offenses felonies on the first offense. Copyright owners may also file civil lawsuits against copyright infringers, and the government may file criminal charges. Tough new United States Sentencing Commission guidelines have reinforced these penalties. The Communications Act of 1984, and later amendments provide comparable penalties and remedies for cable TV and satellite pirates.

Today, more than 80 nations have copyright laws. MPAA/MPA and its affiliated organizations work to strengthen these laws, when necessary, and suggest appropriate penalties as part of copyright reform. In some parts of the world where copyright laws are weak or nonexistent, successful charges have been brought against pirates under other statutes, such as receiving stolen goods, trademark violations, smuggling, and failure to pay custom duties.

In addition, intellectual property relations between the US and most foreign countries are governed by an array of multilateral treaties and conventions as well as bilateral agreements, including the Universal Copyright Convention (UCC) and the Berne Convention.

Lastly, various trade agreements also ensure the free flow and protection of intellectual property among nations. The MPA encourages foreign governments to abide by, and fully implement, important agreements such as the Trade Related Aspects of Intellectual Property Rights (TRIPS) agreement and the World Intellectual Property Organization (WIPO) treaties.

TYPES OF PIRACY

OPTICAL DISC PIRACY

Optical Disc Piracy is major threat to the audiovisual sector. Pirate optical discs, which include Laser Discs (LD), Video Compact Discs (VCD) and Digital Versatile Discs (DVD), are inexpensive to manufacture and easy to distribute. In 2000, over 20 million pirate optical discs were seized, and by comparison, 4.5 million videos were seized worldwide in the same period.

Unlike traditional analog piracy, a digital pirated disc is as pure and pristine as the original. In addition, a production facility can churn out a huge volume of illegal discs in relatively short time. To illustrate this, an average illegal videocassette duplication facility with 100 VCRs can, in a 10 hour period, produce about 400 pirated cassettes, while pirates with the right CD pressing equipment can produce thousands of perfect VCDs or DVDs daily.

The MPA supports the introduction of effective measures to control the spread of optical disc piracy, such as licensing requirements for optical disc manufacturing facilities and the tracking of the import and export of manufacturing equipment. Strengthened cooperation among customs and enforcement authorities worldwide to share information relating to transnational operation of organized criminal enterprises engaged in production, export, or import of illicit optical discs is also critical.

INTERNET PIRACY

Online motion picture piracy is the unauthorized use of copyrighted motion pictures on the Internet. It is illegal to sell, trade, lease, distribute, upload for transmission, transmit or publicly perform motion pictures online without the consent of the motion pictures� copyright owner.

Online piracy is a relatively new phenomenon, and, unfortunately, a growing trend. The MPA Worldwide Internet Anti-Piracy program investigates all forms of online piracy including: Downloadable Media, Hard Goods Piracy, Streaming Media and online offerings of illegal Circumvention Devices. The MPA is working closely with the online community to prevent the unauthorized use and distribution of film industry product on the Internet.

Downloadable Media

Downloadable Media refers to digital files that allow for motion pictures to be compressed and uploaded for direct download onto a computer. Pirates use Downloadable Media formats to illegally offer and distribute motion pictures to other Internet users. Typically, the pirate host will use illegal VCD copies of motion pictures to create digital copies that are recorded into a computer file. Using online communication avenues, including chat rooms, Internet Relay Chats (IRC), FTP sites, newsgroups, File Swapping Utilities (FSUs) and Web sites, the pirate offers these files to other Internet users who then download the motion picture file onto their own computers.

Hard Goods

Hard goods piracy refers to the illegal sale, distribution and/or trading of copies of motion pictures in any format, including videocassettes and all optical media product. Illegal hard goods are sold on web sites, online auction sites such as eBay and Yahoo!, and via e-mail solicitations.

Streaming Media

Streaming media refers to the transmission or transfer of data that is delivered to the online user or viewer in a steady stream in near real time. Similar to hard goods and downloadable media, It is illegal to stream copyrighted content without the express authorization of the copyright holder.

Circumvention Devices

A circumvention device is any physical medium or digital file that allows for the circumvention of content protection devices put on films, videos, discs, etc. to secure the copyrighted content. One such Circumvention Device is the unauthorized, so-called software utility DeCSS. Any person that has the DeCSS utility can use it to break the copy protection on DVDs making it possible for motion pictures in DVD format to be decrypted and illegally copied onto a computer�s hard-drive for further distribution over the Internet or otherwise, in perfect, digital format. Other common circumvention devices include "black boxes" and other illegal signal theft devices and macrovision defeators.

The Law

Online piracy is covered by the same laws that govern other forms of piracy. In addition, the US government recently amended federal copyright statutes to specifically address Internet copyright issues and enhance the protection of Intellectual Property online through the No Electronic Theft Act (NET Act) and the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA).

For more information on online film piracy, please see the MPAA web page section "Protecting Copyright in the Courts".

VIDEOCASSETTE PIRACY

Videocassette piracy is the illegal duplication, distribution, rental or sale of copyrighted videocassettes. In recent years, the MPAA/MPA shifted its investigative focus onto the illicit duplicating facilities or "laboratories" that are set-up to create and distribute pirated videocassettes. These facilities are often times capable of producing hundreds of thousands of illegal videocassette copies each year. These copies are then distributed to a variety of outlets including swap meets, co-operating video dealers and street vendors. The pirate product is often packaged in counterfeit videocassette boxes that resemble legitimate packaging.

Camcording: Pirates use hand-held video cameras to record motion picture films off of theater screens and then copy these films onto blank videocassettes and optical discs for illegal distribution. These illicit copies are not only distributed to pirates in the US, but also shipped overseas and distributed through illegal channels even before the film�s international theatrical release.

Screeners: Illegal copies are sometimes made from legitimate advance copies used for screening and marketing purposes.

Back-to-back Copying: A "back-to-back" copy is a pirate videocassette made by connecting two VCRs and then copying an original video onto a blank cassette.

Identifying an Illegal Video

The absence of any of a series of indicators can help point to pirated cassettes, including: the lack of special markings on the plastic cassette, low quality labeling, tape length that does not correspond to the film�s running time, or the absence of special colored gates on the cassette. Most importantly, pirate videocassettes are ALWAYS of inferior quality to an original. Consumers are cheated into purchasing sometimes shoddy,

unwatchable product where the sound is garbled and the graphics are poor. Videocassettes can also be analyzed on special electronic equipment to determine if they are counterfeit as well as to identify the source of the piracy.

THEATRICAL PRINT THEFT

Theft of a 35 or 16 mm film print from a theater, film depot, courier service or other industry-related facility for the purpose of making illegal copies is one of the most serious forms of piracy. This type of theft allows the pirate to make a relatively high quality videotape from the theatrical print, which then serves as the master for the duplication of unauthorized videocassettes. Fortunately, this type of theft is extremely rare due to the difficulty in obtaining the prints illegally and also in transferring the print to another format, such as videocassette.

SIGNAL THEFT

Signal theft refers to the act of illegally tapping into cable TV systems as well as receiving satellite signals without authorization. In addition, pirates have made businesses out of supplying consumers with illegally tampered cable decoders or satellite descramblers. Internationally, the problem becomes more acute when programs not licensed to a particular country are pirated from satellites and then re-transmitted in that country either by cable or broadcast TV.

BROADCAST PIRACY

Like signal theft, broadcast piracy is also defined by piracy that occurs on over-the-air broadcasts. However, instead of stealing signals, the illegal act may be the on-air broadcasting of a bootleg videocassette of a film or the on-air showing of legitimate films or television programs without permission from the copyright holder.

PUBLIC PERFORMANCE

Unauthorized public performances refer to situations where an institution or commercial establishment shows a tape or film to its members or customers without receiving permission from the copyright owner. This includes "public performances" where an admission fee is charged as well as those that are simply offered as an additional service of the establishment.

PARALLEL IMPORTS

Parallel imports describes the importation of goods authorized for manufacture or distribution in the exporting country but imported without express authority of the copyright or trademark owner. (Parallel Importation may or may not be lawful under local laws). Generally parallel imports undercut the domestic market by being available prior to authorized release in that market.

___________________________________________

Regarding Music piracy:
"Piracy" generally refers to the illegal duplication and distribution of sound recordings. There are four specific categories of music piracy:



Pirate recordings are the unauthorized duplication of only the sound of legitimate recordings, as opposed to all the packaging, i.e. the original art, label, title, sequencing, combination of titles etc. This includes mixed tapes and compilation CDs featuring one or more artists.


Counterfeit recordings are unauthorized recordings of the prerecorded sound as well as the unauthorized duplication of original artwork, label, trademark and packaging.


Bootleg recordings (or underground recordings) are the unauthorized recordings of live concerts, or musical broadcasts on radio or television.


Online piracy is the unauthorized uploading of a copyrighted sound recording and making it available to the public, or downloading a sound recording from an Internet site, even if the recording isn't resold. Online piracy may now also include certain uses of "streaming" technologies from the Internet.

Many do not understand the significant negative impact of piracy on the music industry. Though it would appear that record companies are still making their money and that artists are still getting rich, these impressions are mere fallacies. Each sale by a pirate represents a lost legitimate sale, thereby depriving not only the record company of profits, but also the artist, producer, songwriter, publisher, retailer, � and the list goes on. The consumer is the ultimate victim, as pirated product is generally poorly manufactured and does not include the superior sound quality, art work, and insert information included in legitimate product.

Each year, the industry loses about $4.2 billion to piracy worldwide -- "we estimate we lose millions of dollars a day to all forms of piracy."


Music pirates are the first to lose because the recording industry and law enforcement officials are cracking down around the world. Do the crime and you will pay the fine or do the time.


Consumers also lose because the shortcut savings enjoyed by pirates drive up the costs of legitimate product for everyone. Plus, good luck returning a pirated tape or CD when the quality is inferior or the product is defective, as it often is.


Honest retailers (who back up the products they sell) lose because they can�t compete with the prices offered by illegal vendors. Less business means fewer jobs, jobs often filled by young adults.


Record companies lose. Eighty-five percent of recordings released don�t even generate enough revenue to cover their costs. Record companies depend heavily on the profitable fifteen percent of recordings to subsidize the less profitable types of music, to cover the costs of developing new artists, and to keep their businesses operational. The thieves often don�t focus on the eighty-five percent; they go straight to the top and steal the gold.

Finally, and perhaps most importantly, the creative artists lose. Musicians, singers, songwriters and producers don�t get the royalties and fees they�ve earned. Virtually all artists (95%) depend on these fees to make a living. The artists also depend on their reputations, which are damaged by the inferior quality of pirated copies sold to the public.

___________________________________________

Refering to what is illegal (by me):

You are not aloud to upload/download prohibited content

Prohibited Content includes any Content that breaks any local, state, county, national or international law. Prohibited Content also includes: (a) Content that infringes upon any rights (including, but not limited to, copyrights and trademarks); (b) Abusive, threatening, defamatory, racist, or obscene Content; (c) Viruses or any other harmful computer software; (d) False information or libel; (e) Spam, chain letters, or pyramid schemes; (f) Gambling or Illicit drugs; (g) Terrorism; (h) Hacking or cheating Content for internet/online games; (i) Warez, Roms, CD-Keys, Cracks, Passwords, or Serial Numbers; (j) Content that is invasive of privacy or impersonation of any person/entity; and (k) Hacking materials or information.

(a)Would refer to, but not limited to:
Copyrighted Movies both DVD rips and bootlegs

Copyrighted Music both CD,TV, and Cassetes and bootlegs

(b)Would refer to but not limited to:
Documents refering but not limited to overthrowing goverment

Any video, document, etc... of obscene content

Terisost plans

(c)Would refer to but not limited to::
Viruses that damage OS' (operating system)

Or any malware

(d)Would refer to but not limited to:

False documents

Trricking people into scams

(e)Would refer to but not limited to:

Spamming the network

Chain letter, scam letter, etc...

(f)Would refer to but not limited to:

How to obtain illegal drugs

Illegal gambling

(g)Would refer to but not limited to:

Terriost, anything related

(h)Would refer to but not limited to:

Hacks for online games

Cheats and mods (witch breaks most EULA agrements)

(i)Would refer to but not limited to:

Cracks, serials for computer software

(j)Would refer to but not limited to:

Credit card numbers

Personal information (age,email, etc...)

(k)Would refer to but not limited to:

Hacking programs

Documents to hack machines

Last edited by asdfgh1224; September 6th, 2005 at 12:28 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old September 5th, 2005
On Holiday
 
Join Date: April 20th, 2005
Posts: 3,279
Only A Hobo is a great assister to others; your light through the dark tunnel
Default

From the spiel quoted about piracy " Each sale by a pirate represents a lost legitimate sale, thereby depriving not only the record company of profits, but also the artist, producer, songwriter, publisher, retailer, …"

with regards to bootlegs (not pirate copies, and I have realised that a lot of website articles do not realize the difference - not I might add on these forums.,) and indeeen legally distributed Grateful Dead recordings ... this is absolute crap.
The bootleg owner is going to have a complete set of official CDs Albums etc ... praobably every obscure single that whoever made with one different mix. when he's run out of spending a fortune on the official stuff, then he'll go out for the bootlegs, many of which the record companies should have released in the first place.

In all cases the existence of Bootleg recordings improves the profile of the artist .. and well once you've been bootleged, then you can say you're made it.

I really am not going to enter into the political argument on this one, gut thought I'd throw this in for a possible abrupt change of tack
__________________
To get Phex Click on the Fox
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old September 5th, 2005
asdfgh1224's Avatar
Limewire beta tester 4.22
 
Join Date: August 9th, 2005
Location: USA,PA,EAST COAST
Posts: 119
asdfgh1224 is flying high
Thumbs up

yeah i dont like R.I.A.A and M.P.A.A but it is tiring of people saying "Is it legal?" yes it is but it isnt legal as above even know i dont care about it and do what ever, btw i think my chart is better lol
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old September 6th, 2005
Enthusiast
 
Join Date: February 7th, 2005
Posts: 33
LeonMcS is flying high
Default

I remember the days before P2P.
Pre ordering the latest release, paying top dollar and then getting (if your lucky) 3 or 4 good songs per album. And then a few months later when they toured here in Australia re-releasing the album as a special tour edition with an extra cd of 5-6 songs.
Hello? Loyal customer, spent my money and now I'm behind in the deal? And this was back in the days of cds being $30 each. You can't tell me the record companies weren't killing the pig back then.
A few years later my entire cd collection was ripped off. I lost over 200 cds, all paid for, all original. I was so devastated I didn't buy another cd for 5 years.
Nowadays we can get around this. I still buy cds, but only if they offer quality and are from artists I really like. Thanks to LW, I've probably gone out and bought more than I would have after checking out some singles. Amazing how prices have dropped since P2P has come in. And while profits may be dropping for the recording companies, they are still making a profit. Just not at the level they were when they had us all by the...bails. (Its Ashes time!)
Makes me laugh when I see music companies these days crying unfair...
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old September 6th, 2005
Novicius
 
Join Date: September 6th, 2005
Location: New England, USA
Posts: 1
mandesyanks is flying high
Question Copyright?

I am a teacher and would hope that those of you who are so highly and remarkably more knowledgable regarding these copyright issues can give me just some quick answers to my confusion. All of this information just keeps snowballing. I have taught my students about fair use and copyright, but at the same time, many of my peers proclaim to me that we are generally free from many copyright issues, because most things are stated for fair use and/or educational purposes. We are never funded in the school system to the fullest extent to legitimately present the material needed for our students to learn to their greatest potential tehrefore we aer often using itme sfrom the internet and in many instances, fortunately not mine, lower income and urban school districts that can barely afford textbooks for their students depend primarily on internets resources for their lessons. So to finalize the point. Are these large companies going to come after myself, the teacher trying to improve upon the minds that will be building this country's future, ensuring that I receive social security, going to come pounding on my door asking for part of my meager salary because I 'stole' their property, not for monetary profit but for intellecutal gain for all of our future, to ensure that their profits stay at the maximum level. Try me, I am forever in the red. What will the future CEO think about that? Just look at your children.
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old September 7th, 2005
asdfgh1224's Avatar
Limewire beta tester 4.22
 
Join Date: August 9th, 2005
Location: USA,PA,EAST COAST
Posts: 119
asdfgh1224 is flying high
Thumbs up

it depends just dont share copyright files and dont download gigs of files if you want to saty under the radar
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old September 7th, 2005
ultracross's Avatar
FrostWire Developer
 
Join Date: February 7th, 2005
Posts: 815
ultracross is flying high
Default

im glad to see those posts deleted
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old September 7th, 2005
Grandpa's Avatar
Valued Member contributor
 
Join Date: February 20th, 2005
Location: Depends on the Day
Posts: 3,012
Grandpa will become famous soon enough
Default

Here Here
__________________

java.com - Hot Games, Cool Apps









A little common sense goes a long way

Later Grandpa
Reply With Quote
  #9 (permalink)  
Old September 23rd, 2005
Novicius
 
Join Date: September 23rd, 2005
Posts: 2
LiVeWiRe is flying high
Thumbs up

so it is legal ?.....lol im confused....
Reply With Quote
  #10 (permalink)  
Old September 23rd, 2005
Grandpa's Avatar
Valued Member contributor
 
Join Date: February 20th, 2005
Location: Depends on the Day
Posts: 3,012
Grandpa will become famous soon enough
Default

Why are you confused did you get LimeWire from one of the scam sites that give the impression that if you pay for there software then you can download music legally using it.
__________________

java.com - Hot Games, Cool Apps









A little common sense goes a long way

Later Grandpa
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
legal?? Raminder Open Discussion topics 0 July 9th, 2005 01:03 PM
Legal? SongForTheBroken New Feature Requests 1 July 5th, 2005 06:23 AM
Legal nmsoccer20 Open Discussion topics 13 March 5th, 2005 03:17 PM
why is this legal? nmsoccer20 Open Discussion topics 5 October 2nd, 2004 07:12 PM
is this legal??? brandybaker@hotmail.com Open Discussion topics 6 August 13th, 2003 09:24 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 10:26 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.

Copyright © 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.