Hi, UK Bob, I understand ur concern about security issues all net users should be. All i'm suggesting is, if Lime Wire offers the download software for free and u accept it that everyone must share the Lime Wire Folder. I'm not talking about anyone taking control of our pc's only that somehow it be written in the code of the Lime Wire software download that the Lime Wire folder be shared. And u would have to agree to sharing the folder or choose not to download the Lime Wire software, and maybe if u bought pro this could be one of the added features that u could choose not to share ur files, but it's ridiculous to choose not to share ur files and be on the site uploading from others.

It's not always a concious choice not to share files!
Some people aren't sharing because they're firewalled & this effectively stops most or all other people downloading from them. I'm sure that a lot of people aren't even aware of what the firewall icon means, let alone that others can't download from them
In some cases too, the firewall comes from a school, apartment complex etc & so the user's powerless to do anything about it...should these people not be allowed to download???
It's not always as black & white as it seems

If ur not sharing ur only taking, and it's still not fair

I think you have to be a bit less simplistic in your approach.
Even those people who choose not to share may be doing that because they're nervous about using p2p...how many people do you think are just plain scared of being prosecuted? Are you going to tell them that they have nothing to worry about? Out of all those people, there are those who will start to share files...once they're familiar with whatever cilent they're using & feel a bit more comfortable with the whole concept of p2p.
If they were told from day one that they have to share, or they're not allowed to use the client...they'd run a mile & I wouldn't blame them. That would be the network's loss.
There are always going to be freeloaders...fact of life. But to be so militant about forcing people to share would only harm the client & p2p in general.

just food for thought.....

as mentioned above, theres always the issue of the ones which are powerless to reconfigure firewalls etc.... but never the less... have a read and see what you think.

im sure many of you have used azerus ( spelt right? ) and demonoid.com to download torrents... well demonoid have a little system for ratio which changes on how much you download and share... the more you download without sharing, the lower your ratio depends.. surely using a script to limit their download speed according to their ratio would be doable?

you could store ratio info on a remote server or on the client pc,

// for C++ programmers

// a file is loaded which store the ratio when GUI loads
TStringList *ratiofile = new TStringList();
ratiofile->LoadFromFile(encryptedfile.data);
Edit1->Text=ratiofile->Strings[0];


//turn the value in to an Integer
int Dratio =ratiofile->Strings[1];

//file download complete or done by mb
if (*file complete or mb d/l*)
{
Dratio++
}

//file upload complete or done by mb
if (*file complete or mb d/l*)
{
Dratio--
}

// then dependant of value GT or LT set speed
if (Dratio < 10)
{
*allow full bandwidth
}

if (Dratio > 10)
{
* slightly limit bandwidth
}

if (Dratio > 20)
{
*limit bandwidth more
}

etc etc

//then all whats left is to save ratio when closed or periodically
ofstream saveratio(encryptedfile.data);
saveratio<<Dratio<<endl;
saveratio.close();