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LeeWare June 3rd, 2004 05:47 PM

Improving Download Speed
 
With a 28.8Kbps modem. There is not a whole lot you can do to improve your download speed. Think about it this way it will take you 5-6 minutes to download 1MB of data. Therefore, if you are trying to download a file larger than that your download time will be equal to 5 Minutes * NumberOfMegaBytes. A person in this situation has two options.

#1 Download small files.

#2 Get broadband.

Hope this helps.

kip charls June 6th, 2004 02:15 AM

poor download what to do?
 
poor download

kip charls June 6th, 2004 02:41 AM

mac os x how can i force ip?
 
mac os x how can i force ip?
THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HELP

LeeWare June 6th, 2004 07:29 AM

Welcome
 
Welcome

brandysc June 19th, 2004 08:38 AM

Hi,

How do I force LimeWire to use my IP ?

tks,
- Brandysc

LeeWare June 19th, 2004 11:12 AM

Resolution
 
Tools / Options / Advanced / Check the box force IP.

stozza June 22nd, 2004 11:24 PM

corrupt files on limewire
 
Hi, Iam not using limewire pro but the basic version, it is very annoying that 50% of the downloads are corrupt, and iam only told about this once I have downlaoded.
Is there any way of filtering out these corrupt files before I download them?
Remember Iam using basic limewire not pro...

Please help
Thanks
Stozzza

LeeWare June 23rd, 2004 05:41 AM

Dealing with corrupt files
 
The most effective way I've found to deal with corrupt files is to make sure that before you download a file that has reported as corrupt. You first delete the instance of it from the incomplete folder. Then you can try downloading the file again. Hope this helps.

EJ1 July 5th, 2004 12:16 AM

I have LimeWire PRO 4.0.7 on my system running Win98SE with a DSL Extreme(over512kbps) connection at my home. I have tried to download several .avi files for the entire day with no success. I have restarted the dls several times. I bought the LimeWire PRO because I thought there was going to be easier access to files. I noticed many questions about this on the forums, is there some kind of fix or is it a bug? Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

EJ

cabe July 5th, 2004 02:01 AM

Is 2-3kbs downloads normal?
 
I just started using LW basic a few days ago and I'm only getting download speeds of 2-3 kbs.
  • My connection says "excellent"
    I'm only connecting to 4 star sources
    I have a 56 k modem running behind a firewall. I checked the port and it is not blocked.
    I have a Pentium 4 with xp os
    I tried forcing my IP but with no change in performance
    I'm connecting to cable modem sources or higher, usually T1
    I'm usually downloading no more than 2 files at a time
    I normally have 2 sources listed but can't seem to get more than that, even if they are very popular files.

I've tried some of the other suggestions in the forum and there hasn't been any measurable difference; then again the first two pages of this thread are mostly flame so after that I skipped to the newest section. LW purports to have the fastest speeds but this seems awfully slow. Any suggestions will be helpful.
Thanks,
Jeff

LeeWare July 5th, 2004 07:46 AM

Download AVI
 
Quote:

Originally posted by EJ1
I have LimeWire PRO 4.0.7 on my system running Win98SE with a DSL Extreme(over512kbps) connection at my home. I have tried to download several .avi files for the entire day with no success. I have restarted the dls several times. I bought the LimeWire PRO because I thought there was going to be easier access to files. I noticed many questions about this on the forums, is there some kind of fix or is it a bug? Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks

EJ

Up ability to download content is basically limited by host you are uploading from. Unfortunately, a large number of people sharing content on the network are either

#1 Firewalled
#2 busy serving other users
#3 using 56-128Kbps connections this translates to roughly
7-16K max downloads. Try to keep this in mind. If you want to test your ability to download let me know and I can give you access to a machine connected to a T1 and you'll see the difference.

LeeWare July 5th, 2004 08:02 AM

Re: Is 2-3kbs downloads normal?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cabe
I just started using LW basic a few days ago and I'm only getting download speeds of 2-3 kbs.
  • My connection says "excellent"
    I'm only connecting to 4 star sources
    I have a 56 k modem running behind a firewall. I checked the port and it is not blocked.
    I have a Pentium 4 with xp os
    I tried forcing my IP but with no change in performance
    I'm connecting to cable modem sources or higher, usually T1
    I'm usually downloading no more than 2 files at a time
    I normally have 2 sources listed but can't seem to get more than that, even if they are very popular files.

I've tried some of the other suggestions in the forum and there hasn't been any measurable difference; then again the first two pages of this thread are mostly flame so after that I skipped to the newest section. LW purports to have the fastest speeds but this seems awfully slow. Any suggestions will be helpful.
Thanks,
Jeff


Thanks for all of the information. Most people leave it out.
LimeWire displays the transfer speeds in KiloBytes data communications is rated in terms of kilobits.

Therefore, 56Kbit modem = max 7Kbyte
1Byte = 8 Bits
2KB = 16Kbps
4KB = 32Kbps this is more than 50% of your bandwidth.

Don't forget over head and actual connection speed which might be 45Kbps.

So, to make a long story short. Yes

SamiScrotum July 17th, 2004 12:28 AM

Switch to "Monitor" kills uploads
 
I am another who is new to LW (ver. 4.0.7 basic on a P-IV 2.4G running XP[Home] with a DSL 256k conn. )
Problem is, while I know that I can successfully upload - the results are there - whenever I switch to "Monitor" active uploads are flagged "transfer interrupted". This occurs about one second after the switch, just enough time to see that the uploads WERE in fact active.Not all uploads are affected but those that continue are in the minority.
These uploads never resume - I have left them for many hours - and leave me feeling that I have failed to deliver my part of "the bargain". Must be frustrating at the other end too.
If this has been discussed elsewhere, my apologies, just point me in the right direction.
Hopefully somebody can help me with this and possibly also check out my other query - in "General Windows Support" posted 07-11-04.

LeeWare July 18th, 2004 04:11 PM

Re: Switch to "Monitor" kills uploads
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SamiScrotum
I am another who is new to LW (ver. 4.0.7 basic on a P-IV 2.4G running XP[Home] with a DSL 256k conn. )
Problem is, while I know that I can successfully upload - the results are there - whenever I switch to "Monitor" active uploads are flagged "transfer interrupted". This occurs about one second after the switch, just enough time to see that the uploads WERE in fact active.Not all uploads are affected but those that continue are in the minority.
These uploads never resume - I have left them for many hours - and leave me feeling that I have failed to deliver my part of "the bargain". Must be frustrating at the other end too.
If this has been discussed elsewhere, my apologies, just point me in the right direction.
Hopefully somebody can help me with this and possibly also check out my other query - in "General Windows Support" posted 07-11-04.

I've noticed this problem when some people upload from me. I have come to two primary conclusion regarding this situation.

#1 They are trying to download too many files using a 56Kbps connection and the connections are stalling.

#2 They attempting to download content from a connection that prohibits the P2P transfers. Somewhere in between is a device used to block or significantly limit p2p transfers.

Again, I don't know if either one of these assessments are entirely correct but I have encountered this being the case in some if not most of the situations.

I would not be able to make a better determination until more specific testing can be conducted.

SamiScrotum July 22nd, 2004 02:38 AM

Puzzled
 
Thanx for your reply Lee.

While I have no doubt that your conclusions are correct, I am not sure that they totally address my problem. If the situation was in line with your speculations, some UL's would already be flagged as "transfer interrupted" when I switch over to "Monitor" - on odd occasions one or two but not often.

Possibly more are "connecting" than "uploading" but there isn't much time to see as very soon after the switch they change to "t.i.". Even if it is only a minority that are "uploading" why should they change at that time?

As for more specific testing - please enlighten me!!!

boo_hoooo July 24th, 2004 06:39 PM

Down Load Woes
 
Ok. I have been using Lime wire free for a very very long time off and one (go through spurts...LOL) I just downloaded the newest version of it and have a weirdness issue I guess. I am on DSL and think I have the options set up right, but I am spending a LOT of time with my files saying they are waiting in line, awaiting sources, waiting for busy hosts and just not going anywhere. Then one finally "connects" right and it will sit there and say it's downloading and after 10 minutes it's downloaded 0% and the speed =0 and a few minutes later is back to awaiting resources, needing resources or waiting for busy host. Now the same file could do this three or four times in an hour. Did I really just manage to pick the wrong files to want to download? If I have too many (over 4 or 5) at one time does it lock up limewire and confuse it?? I always thought before if I had 20 or 30 files, it was just going in order of what it could find downloading and moving on to the next set.. Am I miss remembering??

Thanks.

Lord of the Rings July 24th, 2004 08:32 PM

I didn't realise this thread was still active until today. Likewise I have a question. re: 4. Go to tools/options/filters/keywords Filter out search results containing !!!
Most likely viruses or porn files emulating your search queries.
(Quote from your 1st post on page 1.)
Exactly how can we filter out these deceptive results. Some of which turn out to be deliberately setup in popular searches so people will open them & find their way to a seedy website. Refer to THIS! There's a reference to the website in question in another thread I didn't find at short-notice (just a day/2 before.) I find it is happening (these files appearing in search results) more frequently in more & more types of searches. I think this is an issue a great many people would like some kind of a solution to. Thanks for your time if you can consider this issue.

orlink July 25th, 2004 03:30 AM

Oh, my...
 
The tips above must be helpfull somehow... Thanks to everyone helping us out! That is very nice from you all... Ignorant users (like me) would never figure out what to do by theirselves. I'm not that ignorant though... have tried many options from above without reading the posts... ever!

But still, my ignorant part just wants to know... Even filtering by quality and speed, the downloads keep getting connected to modem users. This is a pain when you want something bigger than 50 MB... Also, I'm through a OSX firewall and a modem connection... It's being so annoying to search for things that appear to be from good connections and then it starts waiting in line and then connecting to modem users that don't even know what's happening, or ever check the monitors tab...

So ... Am I really doing something wrong or this could be a little fault from Limewire?

LeeWare July 25th, 2004 06:06 AM

Re: Puzzled
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SamiScrotum
Thanx for your reply Lee.

While I have no doubt that your conclusions are correct, I am not sure that they totally address my problem. If the situation was in line with your speculations, some UL's would already be flagged as "transfer interrupted" when I switch over to "Monitor" - on odd occasions one or two but not often.

Possibly more are "connecting" than "uploading" but there isn't much time to see as very soon after the switch they change to "t.i.". Even if it is only a minority that are "uploading" why should they change at that time?

As for more specific testing - please enlighten me!!!

First, I should ask are you still having this problem? If so, you should enabled the statistics so that you can get an accurate picture of how many uploads are not being completed successfully. You can do this by going to (in limewire) tools/statistics/advanced/ check show advanced statistics expand the tree so that the following screen is shown.

Advanced/uploads/General

What you want to pay attention to is your completed file transfers vs. stalled and interrupted.

After you enable these statistics let limewire run for 24 hours. Then check the statistics and post your results here.

Secondly, it is important to understand the statistics are enabled per session that is, if you restart limewire you will have to re-enable the statistics.

Hope this helps.

LeeWare July 25th, 2004 06:16 AM

Re: Down Load Woes
 
Quote:

Originally posted by boo_hoooo
Ok. I have been using Lime wire free for a very very long time off and one (go through spurts...LOL) I just downloaded the newest version of it and have a weirdness issue I guess. I am on DSL and think I have the options set up right, but I am spending a LOT of time with my files saying they are waiting in line, awaiting sources, waiting for busy hosts and just not going anywhere. Then one finally "connects" right and it will sit there and say it's downloading and after 10 minutes it's downloaded 0% and the speed =0 and a few minutes later is back to awaiting resources, needing resources or waiting for busy host. Now the same file could do this three or four times in an hour. Did I really just manage to pick the wrong files to want to download? If I have too many (over 4 or 5) at one time does it lock up limewire and confuse it?? I always thought before if I had 20 or 30 files, it was just going in order of what it could find downloading and moving on to the next set.. Am I miss remembering??

Thanks.


This problem doesn't sound like a limewire problem as much as it is a problem with the sources you are trying to download from. There are three possible causes for your problem. Especially, if you are trying to download popular content . i.e. (usually infringing)

#1 There are so many people trying to download from so few hosts. (supply/demand problem.)

#2 Since the early days of P2P there have been companies that place hosts on the network which return results for popular content but are configured in a way so that you can't actually download the files.

#4 Dynamic nature of the network. Don't forget that hosts join and leave the network constantly. Therefore, it is quite possible to perform a search, get results and by the time you go to download the files the hosts that returned the results has left the network i.e. more sources needed.

My suggestion is to try downloading some other files preferrably smaller ones. If they transfer without issue then you can look to the above suggestions as possible causes.

hope this helps.

LeeWare July 25th, 2004 06:49 AM

Quality of Content on the Network
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Lord of the Rings
I didn't realise this thread was still active until today. Likewise I have a question. re: 4. Go to tools/options/filters/keywords Filter out search results containing !!!
Most likely viruses or porn files emulating your search queries.
(Quote from your 1st post on page 1.)
Exactly how can we filter out these deceptive results. Some of which turn out to be deliberately setup in popular searches so people will open them & find their way to a seedy website. Refer to THIS! There's a reference to the website in question in another thread I didn't find at short-notice (just a day/2 before.) I find it is happening (these files appearing in search results) more frequently in more & more types of searches. I think this is an issue a great many people would like some kind of a solution to. Thanks for your time if you can consider this issue.

I read the thread you referred to in this one and I would offer the following comments on the matter.

#1 - Gnutella is a open network. Therefore, anyone can publish anything. This is obviously a good thing and a bad thing. i.e. Good = My company is a perfect example of this. Educational and Training videos / Applications created by LeeWare Development of course.

People who publish Open Source Software i.e. Linux/FreeBSD etc.
People who distribute movies/music/txt/videos from the public archive. etc. All non-infringing content.

Then you have, porn companies that advertise on p2p networks. fair use of the technology. (regardless of opinion)

Next, is child pornography - these people are predators and opportunist. --I include in this pranksters (immature kids).

This groups activities are illegal.

and Finally, software/movie/music pirates. People who largely deal in the distribution of infringing content i.e. stuff that they did not obtain any type of legal authority to distribute. Pranksters are also a part of this group.

This groups activities are also illegal.

The content published by these last two groups happens to be the most popular and sought after content on the network.

#2 Why do they do it?

Well, the first group that deals in child pornography and general pornography. Is made up of people looking for a way to anonymously trade illegal images and videos. Some times they rename the files to cloak their activies. However, the people belonging to that group know the true contents of the files.

Movie Pirates take ripped versions of porn movies and publish them on the network. (Copyright-infringement). The porn industry in response to this attempts to curtail the activity by flooding the network with video-clips that advertise the websites for such material.

The pranksters name the porn movies so that they look like infringing-content. Latest movie releases and unsuspecting users spend a lot of time download junk. The pranksters justify their actions by saying "they shouldn't have been trying to download x in the first place."

The irony is of course, people wouldn't come across such files if they weren't actively seeking them out.

#3 Why do people download this stuff?

Well, there are two reasons.

#1 They don't know any better.
#2 If they know better, they don't care.

There you have it. This is not a technology problem as much as it is a user population problem.

Hope this helps.

LeeWare July 25th, 2004 06:55 AM

Re: Oh, my...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by orlink
The tips above must be helpfull somehow... Thanks to everyone helping us out! That is very nice from you all... Ignorant users (like me) would never figure out what to do by theirselves. I'm not that ignorant though... have tried many options from above without reading the posts... ever!

But still, my ignorant part just wants to know... Even filtering by quality and speed, the downloads keep getting connected to modem users. This is a pain when you want something bigger than 50 MB... Also, I'm through a OSX firewall and a modem connection... It's being so annoying to search for things that appear to be from good connections and then it starts waiting in line and then connecting to modem users that don't even know what's happening, or ever check the monitors tab...

So ... Am I really doing something wrong or this could be a little fault from Limewire?

I hope that when you say that you are connected via a MODEM you mean a cable modem and not a dialup one. Because if you do, then you really can't complain about your sources all being modem quality hosts. To put it another way, I could give you access to a 100Mbps connected host. But if you are connected via a modem you will only be able to download from that host @ about 45Kbps per second or lower. Limewire would show the speeds at 5-6KB.

Hope this helps.

danskimanuk July 25th, 2004 09:12 AM

Forcing my Firewall IP
 
Thanks for the tips leeware. very informative...

I obviously want to play fair and share well, so I need to know how to force my firewire IP address.

I have just dowloaded limewire pro and have set up as suggested in your thread. However I need to know the procedure for forcing my Firewall IP (obtained from whatismyIP.com/as suggested). Is this done within limewire (i have checked the option to force ip-but see no place for IP entry)or is this a command line thing???

With regard to my download speed,even after carrying out your suggestions and updating to Limewire Pro I am still getting very dissapointing results (average of 5KB - from a 600Kbps (i.e 70KBps service)) as stated in my entry under:

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=26906

Perhaps my internet access is not configured correctly, as a 5KB download speed from a fast soure (cable/DSL) or above is not right, surely??
Is there a command that enables you to view the total maximum available bandwidth currently available to you???

Any other tips, would be of great help.

Cheers
sad newbie a.k.a
Danskiman

boo_hoooo July 25th, 2004 10:00 AM

Re: Re: Down Load Woes
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by LeeWare
[problem doesn't sound like a limewire problem as much as it is a problem with the sources you are trying to download from. There are three possible causes for your problem. Especially, if you are trying to download popular content . i.e. (usually infringing)#1 There are so many people trying to download from so few hosts. (supply/demand problem.)

#2 Since the early days of P2P there have been companies that place hosts on the network which return results for popular content but are configured in a way so that you can't actually download the files.

#4 Dynamic nature of the network. Don't forget that hosts join and leave the network constantly. Therefore, it is quite possible to perform a search, get results and by the time you go to download the files the hosts that returned the results has left the network i.e. more sources needed.


So i't just a case of timing. I am just happening to have problems at the same time I upgraded. Is there a way to try and get better hook ups? I am semi frusterated, because it feels like I can do the search's and those files come up while I am getting te notices for needing resources. If I go to them and do a search of their computer it comes up and tells me what's in it, but I can't get anything to download from them at that time. Does that make sense?? Am I beating a dead horse and there's actually nothing I am doing "wrong" persa here, I just have to develope a big case of patience....

Arlene

Arlene

LeeWare July 25th, 2004 07:38 PM

Re: Re: Re: Down Load Woes
 
[QUOTE]Originally posted by boo_hoooo
Quote:

Originally posted by LeeWare
[problem doesn't sound like a limewire problem as much as it is a problem with the sources you are trying to download from. There are three possible causes for your problem. Especially, if you are trying to download popular content . i.e. (usually infringing)#1 There are so many people trying to download from so few hosts. (supply/demand problem.)

#2 Since the early days of P2P there have been companies that place hosts on the network which return results for popular content but are configured in a way so that you can't actually download the files.

#4 Dynamic nature of the network. Don't forget that hosts join and leave the network constantly. Therefore, it is quite possible to perform a search, get results and by the time you go to download the files the hosts that returned the results has left the network i.e. more sources needed.


So i't just a case of timing. I am just happening to have problems at the same time I upgraded. Is there a way to try and get better hook ups? I am semi frusterated, because it feels like I can do the search's and those files come up while I am getting te notices for needing resources. If I go to them and do a search of their computer it comes up and tells me what's in it, but I can't get anything to download from them at that time. Does that make sense?? Am I beating a dead horse and there's actually nothing I am doing "wrong" persa here, I just have to develope a big case of patience....

Arlene

Arlene
I won't deny that it could be a problem with LimeWire. However, before we assume that can you confirm the version you are using and confirm the fact that you are unable to download anything.

Or, is it a matter of not being able to download just (some) things.

Please advise.

boo_hoooo July 25th, 2004 09:58 PM

Ok. I can download at really really horribly slow speeds. I am on dsl and I am pretty sure that the things I was trying to download were off dsl also as I try to advoid dial-up. I am using limewire 4.0.7 which I just updated to this week. I did have some problems connecting before to folks but assumed as per the norm people were signing on and off. Now, though in a whole day I haven't had one single file down load (now mind you they are big for the most part) and three songs have been disconnected in the middle of download which one of was downloading for over 4 minutes when it downloaded. Most the time a song should be done before it really starts no?? Like I said, it could very well be that I am just trying to download big files that are taking up a lot of room. Is there a way to adjust my bandwidth to take more?? Is that the problem? What would I gain by going to pro?? I am whiney and frusterated today.. Husband wants to disconnect cable and dang it I wanted to get these files before he did that... LOL Heck if I will ever get them downloaded otherwise..

bobbabe July 26th, 2004 02:02 PM

I can't download limewire pro from site. download link brings me back to itself, regardless of which browser I use. OSX is operating system- Thanks in advance-jbb

chocoholic July 28th, 2004 05:28 AM

I just browsed a host and came across a sickening list of what if-it-is-what-it-is is child porn.
I realise that since I didn't download any of it that I can't be sure that's what it is. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised to find that there's not much discussion going on about what should be done about it. *Sigh*
I'm not into acting rashly and I am an advocate of freedom of speach. But child porn aint right... there's ethics on the one hand and there's children who are too young to defend themselves from harm. And that's what we're turning a blind eye too.

Authorities are trying to find people who commit these crimes but it seems a laborious task. I think sites like Limewire should say 'hosts who are identified as having child porn' in their share folders will have their IP addresses and information reported to relevant authorities'

I spose undoubtably these perverts will go underground (I read that they can change their IP addresses every time they log on) but its a start or maybe someone has a better idea??

LeeWare July 28th, 2004 10:49 AM

network monitoring
 
There are a lot of people on these forums and others who have a lot of ideas about what it means to manage a network. In fact many of them will actually argue with you about particulars. Let me share this bit of knowledge with you as a person who is not only a real live network administrator but I work for a private industry ISP.

#1 P2P networks are heavly monitored by various organizations for not only child porn but for copyright violations.

#2 If you are using public infrastructure i.e. an ISP's IP address and you're communications with an anonymous public. You have a limited expectation of privacy. This is akin to publically walking naked and then complaining that other people can see you.

Ultimately, what I am trying to say is don't worry about it. Someone is always watching and waiting and will take the appropriate action at the appropriate time.

LeeWare July 28th, 2004 10:51 AM

Did you buy it?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by bobbabe
I can't download limewire pro from site. download link brings me back to itself, regardless of which browser I use. OSX is operating system- Thanks in advance-jbb
Did you buy it?

If not, I think you might want to try one of the free offerings. If you did -- I believe that they have an email address you can use to contact the limewire team.

chocoholic July 30th, 2004 04:59 AM

Re: network monitoring
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LeeWare
There are a lot of people on these forums and others who have a lot of ideas about what it means to manage a network. In fact many of them will actually argue with you about particulars. Let me share this bit of knowledge with you as a person who is not only a real live network administrator but I work for a private industry ISP.

#1 P2P networks are heavly monitored by various organizations for not only child porn but for copyright violations.

#2 If you are using public infrastructure i.e. an ISP's IP address and you're communications with an anonymous public. You have a limited expectation of privacy. This is akin to publically walking naked and then complaining that other people can see you.

Ultimately, what I am trying to say is don't worry about it. Someone is always watching and waiting and will take the appropriate action at the appropriate time.

I'm not trying to tell anyone how to manage a network. I'm just an idealist - It is so seriously sad that cool ideas like P2P networks can be a portal for and proliferate child porn. People should care more but everyone just wants their downloads to be faster.
You bunch of sleepers!

So thanks for your assurance that someone is watching but I'm afraid I find it rather cold comfort -particularly given the laughability of your quote #1

LeeWare July 30th, 2004 05:34 AM

Re: Re: network monitoring
 
Quote:

Originally posted by chocoholic
I'm not trying to tell anyone how to manage a network. I'm just an idealist - It is so seriously sad that cool ideas like P2P networks can be a portal for and proliferate child porn. People should care more but everyone just wants their downloads to be faster.
You bunch of sleepers!

So thanks for your assurance that someone is watching but I'm afraid I find it rather cold comfort -particularly given the laughability of your quote #1

I'm not suggesting that you had any particular ideas about managing a network. Perhaps I too am an idealist because it's sad to me that the large majority of p2p users use the software for pirating content which has ruined to reputation of p2p. Guess what? The only things these people care about is how to make their downloads go faster!

Then when things go wrong people cry and moan about how unsecure the P2P networking infrastructure is and how this and that is an invasion of privacy.

Please.

SamiScrotum August 1st, 2004 05:32 AM

Test results
 
Lee, as requested, here are the test results relevant to my post. Completed transfers 259, Interrupted 229, Stalled 35.

Two further test periods produced similar figures, 203/225/25 and 225/217/19. Slightly different conditions for each period (although I doubt that they would contribute). For the first test, "show completed transfers" was activated - but not for the second. I did not access the Monitor tab at any time during either of these test periods, but did for the third, "show" being activated again.

I look forward to your interpretation of these figures. Thanks for your interest.

GameLover55 August 2nd, 2004 07:04 AM

Hi, I am not new but was reading your thread. I know my personal IP is a 192.**, and that is what my administrator told me to allow in my firewall advanced rules. Are you saying that I should take that out and allow the ip that that link gives me? Any help is appreciated, as I am new to routering and a hardware firewall. I have a lot of files, and I see some do get them from me, but nowhere near how many are trying to get them. Sign me frustrated with new router/hardware firewall.

LeeWare August 4th, 2004 09:06 PM

Re: Test results
 
Quote:

Originally posted by SamiScrotum
Lee, as requested, here are the test results relevant to my post. Completed transfers 259, Interrupted 229, Stalled 35.

Two further test periods produced similar figures, 203/225/25 and 225/217/19. Slightly different conditions for each period (although I doubt that they would contribute). For the first test, "show completed transfers" was activated - but not for the second. I did not access the Monitor tab at any time during either of these test periods, but did for the third, "show" being activated again.

I look forward to your interpretation of these figures. Thanks for your interest.

Actually the results appear to be pretty normal to me. However, I would suggest that you look under the library tab after running for a few days and check the actualuploads/attempteduploads

This will give you an idea of which file are completing.

Hope this helps.

LeeWare August 4th, 2004 09:12 PM

Solution for Your Problem
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GameLover55
Hi, I am not new but was reading your thread. I know my personal IP is a 192.**, and that is what my administrator told me to allow in my firewall advanced rules. Are you saying that I should take that out and allow the ip that that link gives me? Any help is appreciated, as I am new to routering and a hardware firewall. I have a lot of files, and I see some do get them from me, but nowhere near how many are trying to get them. Sign me frustrated with new router/hardware firewall.
A number of failed uploads is normal. If people are getting files off of your computer then we can assume that everything is working. The fact that some uploads fail again is normal.

SamiScrotum August 11th, 2004 09:05 PM

accepted as read
 
Thanx once again for your interest Lee.

If these results are normal then that's fine by me. Just expected to see a higher percentage of successful U/Ls.

As for actual v. attempted U/Ls, there was no clear trend, with very few files being "hit" a number of times without any success. Live and learn, eh?

cronotrigger913 August 13th, 2004 09:00 AM

OK, I'm new to these forums, so I apologize if this problem has already been addressed.

When downloading, I will pick a song to download, but it says I need more sources, but the list of songs was generated a second ago. The source is right there! Also, while downloading a song, mostly on modem connections from other users, the downloading will just stop and then tell me that it is waiting for busy hosts, but shouldn't I be the one using the uploading slots from that user instead of waiting, I was downloading from them first. For reference, my version is the 4.1.3 beta version. Thanks for the help.

boo_hoooo August 13th, 2004 11:27 PM

Download Search problems
 
OK. This gives me joy, I too have the same problem. I do a search and before it's done try to do a 4 star download from multiple people and get told I have to find more sources. If I go and do a search again the same one pops up as available and yet I can't get a download off it. It doesen't come up busy. Though of late I am getting a tone of the "waiting for busy hosts" for like 4 or 6 hours and then their off line. Is there a way to expand bandwith or something that will help speed up my downloads when these folks are on line?? I have stuff that's almost 2 weeks old that is only downloading maybe 3% a time when they log on. Is this what pro is supposed to help with? I mean with having a cable modem I don't feel like my download times should be so slow or have so many probelms. Especially when I think that most of them are coming from cable too. Am I doing something wrong or just expecting too much from the "program"??? LOL I have been getting the feeling of late that I am expecting too much from several different things in my life.... SOOOO... :)

Arlene:confused:

GagReflex August 20th, 2004 08:57 AM

Feeling Robbed
 
I've gotten tired of getting the Awaiting sources msgs so I paid my 18.88 for pro hoping it would get better. It didn't.

The older versions of Limewire seemed to do a better job, what happened?

I've tried to follow the suggestions posts. Frankly they seem to be more confusing than helpful, block or not to block, 4 stars 2 stars, slow fast, force, push, pull, ping and pong...who freaking cares? I just want to download a couple files and I'm tired if it appearing in the searches and seeing my file still awaiting sources or waiting for busy hosts. C'mon the file is either available or not, crap or get off the pot!!

boo_hoohoo August 20th, 2004 04:54 PM

Is this the norm??
 
Ok.. Are there others that feel the same? Do you feel that the upgrade to pro cut down on the "awaiting" and "waiting" I have 24 things I have been "awaiting" downloads or been "waiting" for downloads on for almost a month now. On average I get 2 downloads in a 24 hour period and it doesn't matter if their dsl, cable, t1 or modem, how many stars there are and all where clicked on within minutes of the search coming up.. At this rate I will still be "awaiting" downloads at Christmas and as I add more I don't want to know when they'll be done. I don't ever remember having this much of a problem getting things to download last year..

LeeWare August 20th, 2004 09:40 PM

Please Read
 
Quote:

Originally posted by cronotrigger913
OK, I'm new to these forums, so I apologize if this problem has already been addressed.

When downloading, I will pick a song to download, but it says I need more sources, but the list of songs was generated a second ago. The source is right there! Also, while downloading a song, mostly on modem connections from other users, the downloading will just stop and then tell me that it is waiting for busy hosts, but shouldn't I be the one using the uploading slots from that user instead of waiting, I was downloading from them first. For reference, my version is the 4.1.3 beta version. Thanks for the help.


Please look at the following thread

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...ight=busy+host

Hope this helps.

LeeWare August 20th, 2004 09:48 PM

Re: Download Search problems
 
Quote:

Originally posted by boo_hoooo
OK. This gives me joy, I too have the same problem. I do a search and before it's done try to do a 4 star download from multiple people and get told I have to find more sources. If I go and do a search again the same one pops up as available and yet I can't get a download off it. It doesen't come up busy. Though of late I am getting a tone of the "waiting for busy hosts" for like 4 or 6 hours and then their off line. Is there a way to expand bandwith or something that will help speed up my downloads when these folks are on line?? I have stuff that's almost 2 weeks old that is only downloading maybe 3% a time when they log on. Is this what pro is supposed to help with? I mean with having a cable modem I don't feel like my download times should be so slow or have so many probelms. Especially when I think that most of them are coming from cable too. Am I doing something wrong or just expecting too much from the "program"??? LOL I have been getting the feeling of late that I am expecting too much from several different things in my life.... SOOOO... :)

Arlene:confused:

A few things, Your download are limited by the person your downloading from. Therefore, if the remote host is busy, misconfigured or simply unstable. These things will impact your downloads.

Keep in mind, that if you are attempting to download popular content i.e music and movies there are also companies the broadcast results but make it impossible to download those files.
Therefore, you can spend a month trying to get a file that you think is one thing and it turns out to be something entirely different.

Finally, LeeWare Development hosts close to 30GB of content on the gnutella network on a 24/7 basis. We basically see datastreams (metered / throughput) = data going to users at rates between 1.5Mbps - 6Mbps. We use the latest version of LimeWire to do this. I can assure you that it is definately not the program.

Hope this helps.

LeeWare August 20th, 2004 09:52 PM

Re: Feeling Robbed
 
Quote:

Originally posted by GagReflex
I've gotten tired of getting the Awaiting sources msgs so I paid my 18.88 for pro hoping it would get better. It didn't.

The older versions of Limewire seemed to do a better job, what happened?

I've tried to follow the suggestions posts. Frankly they seem to be more confusing than helpful, block or not to block, 4 stars 2 stars, slow fast, force, push, pull, ping and pong...who freaking cares? I just want to download a couple files and I'm tired if it appearing in the searches and seeing my file still awaiting sources or waiting for busy hosts. C'mon the file is either available or not, crap or get off the pot!!

Please see my response to Arlene -- Also keep in mind that paying for the program does not mean that you will magically be able to do things with it you couldn't do with the free one. It's the same results, same people hosting those files and therefore you are subject to experience the same problems when trying to download stuff.

stupididiot69er September 10th, 2004 04:24 PM

holy crap this is long how do you start a thing like this ?

LeeWare September 10th, 2004 09:03 PM

How?
 
By participating.

franki September 15th, 2004 09:12 PM

Limewire hosts "blocked" by router?
 
I'm using LimeWire file sharing software for both downloading and uploading purposes.

I have been using ADSL router (D-Link DSL-500G) connection since last month (used to connect to Internet using dial-up modem which still available now).

Whenever I use LimeWire with router connection, I find that in Limewire:

1) The file searching showed relatively less results, ie. it showed
relatively less number of available hosts (available to be downloaded) for a specific file compare to if I'm using dial-up connection and search... (This happened frequently)

2) The uploading slot is rarely active, most of the time it shows zero uploading and occasionally one uploading. However, if using dial-up connection, obviously after I have connected to LimeWire network, my uploading slots are very busy (from 2 to 5 active uploading mostly).

It seems that the router connection always "blocked" or filtered some of the hosts from reaching to my computer (shared folder) and vice versa. I would like to know how to solve this and enable all the incoming and outgoing network traffic (make it as universal as possible).

I tried using different version such as 4.0.8 and 4.1.4 but the situations remain.

Any advice are highly appreciated. Thanks.

LeeWare September 15th, 2004 09:31 PM

Solution to your Problem
 
Regarding the difference in results, the only thing I can think of is that when you connect via dial-up vs DSL your search horizon is different that is, each machine is connected to a different portion of the network. For example I run several machines out of several locations. Sometimes I can search from one and receive results from ALL the others other times, only from a few and yet other times none of the other ones. Don't forget content on the network is constantly shifting as people logon and log off.

Finally, regarding your ability to upload file to other users. I would recommend you check the library tab to see if you are getting hits. If so, then at least you know that you are returning results. Also just because you are not seeing any upload activity doesn't mean that your files can't be uploaded.

Finally, For all the people who took my advice above to increase their chances of actually being able to download stuff. Well, those settings i.e. filters will reduce the number of results you see because they will basically ignore anyone who is behind a firewall. This was good advise at the time however, there have been several improvements in the software that I'm not sure that filtering is necessary.


Hope this helps.


Good luck!

mstfyd September 16th, 2004 09:08 AM

Re: Maximizing upload/download Success LimeWire
 
Quote:

Originally posted by LeeWare
I posted this thread in the open discussion but decided I should also post it here as it could be useful for some people.

Maximizing upload/download Success LimeWire

Objective:

I'm starting this thread to address two common problems which seem to appear over and over again in the forums.

General description of the problem:

1. Problems downloading content
2. Low upload count

Now, for the problems people are having with uploading / downloading, Consider the following suggestions:

3. Finally, if you are using NAT (meaning that the IP address of your machine is 10.x.x.x or 192.x.x.x ) now, might be able to connect, search and download from the network but no one will be able to upload from you. If you have taken the advise of others to force your IP using limewire then your half way there, as your port forwarding is working correctly. But, you need to FORCE THE IP OF YOUR ROUTER or FIREWALL to the network. To find out what your ip is from the machine that you use to get on Gnutella open a web browser to http://www.whatismyip.com
(write this IP down and force this IP in Limewire) If you need help testing this Just post a reply to this thread.

By implementing these suggestions you will have better luck downloading and uploading on Gnutella.

First, the details: I am on a pc running windows xp w/ the xp firewall, 56k modem, avant browser. I have enabled Gnutella port 6346 as per Limewire directions.

I have has successful downloads as well as successful uploads, but the failure rate is high for uploads and since I am doing a large file I have noticed I frequently go from active downloading to position #1 in a queue (which I have taken to mean that I lost connection briefly, and the next person took my place).
The median transfer rate is 1 kps for both uploads and downloads. Download speed has briefly gotten as high as
4kps when no other downloads are active, but this not always the case. I have seen max upload speeds of 2 kps.

I am going to try to force my ip address and have used whatismyip which returned 152.163.xxx.xx. However, I also have pinged my address and gotten back 172.158.xxx.xx.

This is confusing. Which is correct? Can both be correct? Why 2 different results? Where do I go from here?

LeeWare September 16th, 2004 11:44 AM

Re: Re: Maximizing upload/download Success LimeWire
 
Quote:

Originally posted by mstfyd
First, the details: I am on a pc running windows xp w/ the xp firewall, 56k modem, avant browser. I have enabled Gnutella port 6346 as per Limewire directions.

I have has successful downloads as well as successful uploads, but the failure rate is high for uploads and since I am doing a large file I have noticed I frequently go from active downloading to position #1 in a queue (which I have taken to mean that I lost connection briefly, and the next person took my place).
The median transfer rate is 1 kps for both uploads and downloads. Download speed has briefly gotten as high as
4kps when no other downloads are active, but this not always the case. I have seen max upload speeds of 2 kps.

I am going to try to force my ip address and have used whatismyip which returned 152.163.xxx.xx. However, I also have pinged my address and gotten back 172.158.xxx.xx.

This is confusing. Which is correct? Can both be correct? Why 2 different results? Where do I go from here?

First judging by your IP addresses you are an AOL user. You are also using DHCP that is your ISP automatically assigns you can IP address everytime you connect to the network. This IP address probably changes each time also. No mystery here. Finally, There are several reason you might change positions in a queue.

#1 Most Gnutella clients request file chunks that is, some small portion of the file you are trying to download. When you complete downloading this chunk your client needs to make a new request for another piece. If the file is popular i.e. being downloaded by other users then their download requests would fill the slots. Leaving you in line.

#2 Sometime when downloading a file that contains multiple sources perhaps you were queued on one or more of the hosts but you don't become visable until you have completed downloading the segments for which you got an open slot.

#3 There could have been a break in communications (see #1)


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