Optimize for Limewire: router vs modem
 

I'm using LimeWire 4.0.8 for my PC with Windows 98SE. I'm currently using (budget) ADSL router (D-Link DSL-500G for single PC) for my connection (512/256Kbps).

For the case, is ADSL router or ADSL modem provide faster downloading and uploading using LimeWire? (let's ignore the manufacturer/model factors of equipments but focus on the difference with router vs modem etc.) Please explain the reasons...

Thanks for any answer.

router vs modem
 

Assuming I understand your question. You want to know which offers better download performance a router or a modem?


Answer: It doesn't matter.

Why? Because your download speed is limited by the person you're downloading the file from.


Therefore if you have a T3 = 45Mbps connection and the person you are transferring data from only has a 56Kbps you will only be able to communicate @ 56Kbps or less.


Hope this helps to clear things up a bit.

how upload?!?1+ :(

Re: Maximizing upload/download Success LimeWire
 

Can you tell me where to force my IP at. I went to firewall and force IP but where do you type in your IP. And how do you tell what proxy have Please Help

Thank you
ANy help would be appreciated

Solution to your problem
 

If you are using a new version of limewire i.e. 4.x then there is no option to enter an IP address.

Before we go any further please specify what you are trying to accomplish that way I can tailor a response that specifically helps you to meet your goal.

hi lee

i have the same problems downloading files about 700mb,

i have a dsl/cable, i have a pentuim 4, with windows xp (not updated with the new upgrade add on). the connection comes and goes, i have tried the quality settings and the same results occur, the speeds are like 2-5 kps like 40% of the time, 60% is anywhere between connecting, waiting in line, in que, etc. should i plug my connection into my computer modem rather than the router, will that help my connection speeds?

i'm really ultra new at this, so any help would be awesome, and i'd welcome anyones imput. thanks lee

Interdiction
 

Your setup is fine, However, here are a few things to consider.

#1 If the host you are downloading from is connected via 56Kbps then there's nothing you can do (please read previous posts.)

#2 If the content you are downloading happens to be copyrighted material. Keep in mind that there are companies who make these files available on the network but use hacked clients that make getting files a) impossible or b) almost impossible.

#3 Supply and demand. If the above is not true don't forget that although file sharing is about sharing there are still more people looking to get content and not enough people distributing it.

Hope this helps.

not uploading?
 

Hello, have read the multitude of posts and most of it doesnt make any sense. I can download without problems and have specified folders to share. Seems to be a lot of hits but no uploads. system is xp, with NAV 2005 installed. I really have no idea what changes i am supposed to make to NAV to enable others to upload. If you can advise, i'm sure others would enjoy some of the files I have to share. Kind Regards, jacqui.

Upload testing
 

You're settings are probably fine. I can however, help you to determine if you have the ability to upload files to the network.
Basically, I need you to create a text file called upload-testing.txt
the file should contain the following characters:

44000001234556p2i4u5


post by to this thread after you have done this and are sharing this file.

Please test my upload capability. I have been experiencing problems uploading. In fact, no one can download from me.

the txt file is available for you.

Thanks,
Tom

ip: 24.248.171.245

up-load testing file
 

Hello Lee, thanks for your help. I have saved a txt file with 44000001234556p2i4u5 on to my shared folder...

Waiting Host Busy
 

I found your machine - In fact I was able to browse it you have 3100+ files. However, The test file I asked you to create is 0 bytes which means you did not enter the string I specified for it to contain. When ever I try to download a file from your computer I get one of two messages

#1 Waiting host Busy --Are there people uploading from your machine ? What is your configuration? /tools/options/uploads/slots?

What version of limewire are you using?

Do you have a firewall?

or #2 Need more sources

The file is not empty, I posted just as you requested. I am experiencing the problem with Limewire 4.07,4.08, and the new beta.

It also does the same on another computer connected to a seperate cable internet access, modem, router, etc.. but same ISP. It has a dynamic IP while my main system (this one) has its own static IP and commercial cable connected to it.

My website visitors are able to download from my website (http downloads) and my ftp. It may be that the ISP is blocking gnutella traffic, who knows, will call them tomorrow.

Re: up-load testing file
 

I couldn't find your file online. Are you connected right now?

Additional Questions
 

I test a connection to your FTP server and was able to download a text file. Does your older version of limewire work?

In frustration, I brought Limewire down, but brought it back up since people are trying to help.

Limewire (4.07) worked fine 3 weeks ago. Now, no version will upload. No changes have been made from my end except the installation of 4.08 and then the beta.

BTW, re-installed winmx and it worked great. Just uninstalled it though.

Questions
 

I had a quick question regarding WINMX userbase size. I was thinking about hosting content on WINMX but I would like to know approximately how many people use that network?

As far as I know, it uses the same network and last time I checked, it's userbase was over 3mil. but not really sure.

WinMX is at 1 - 2 millions simultaneous users. A lot are from Asia where WinMX is really popular. I don't have hard written stats though.

Thanks
 

Thanks alot - I will add this network to list of networks I'm hosting on.

I have run Limewire for several hours now and find that those whose IP address is very similare to mine can download from me. At least those whose first two (xxx.xxx.nnn.nnn) are the same. My Isp uses 68.97.xxx.xxx for their dynamic and 24.248.xxx.xxx for their static. Only these people are downloading from me.

Any ideas?

Possibility
 

Although I don't know for a fact but it is not unreasonable to assume that perhaps they are using some type of device which limits P2P traffic to other users on the network i.e. sandboxing the traffic. This would make sense as most ISPs pay a lot of money for traffic that moves of of the network. There are a couple things you could do to validate / invalidate this assumption.

#1) Check your connections to see if they are limited to people who are in the subnets used by your ISP.

#2) When you download something are you limited to dowloading from people in those same subnets?


Finally, perhaps things are working for you again.

#1) No
#2) No

Connections aren't limited and I can download from anyone, unless they too are having the same problem and don't know it.

up-load testing file
 

couldnt find it either....saved again. thanks

Re: up-load testing file
 

I just wanted to let you know I got your message and the answer to your question is....

x/x CompletedUploads/AttemptedUploads

hope this helps.

Help plz
 

help me please! i cant upload anything! how do i do it?? please! :(

Re: Help plz
 

Did you try reading some of the earler posts?

Re: Re: Help plz
 

yes i did, 2 times acuality. and i dont get it!

Re: Re: Re: Help plz
 

Please be specific in describing your problem for example.

are you sharing from home,work or school?
what type of connection are you using adsl, cable, dial-up?
has uploading worked before? etc.

Re: Possibility
 

This must be the case. Far too many users are experiencing the same thing. It is either ISP or software related. My ISP says they are not using any type of device or system as you mentioned, so must be software related. So much for Limeware.

Solution
 

I am pretty confident that you can download video content however, I think the problem is two-fold 1) it depends on the host you are trying to download from. 2) it depends on WHAT movies you are trying to download. If it is a copyrighted work chances are is being hosted by a company used by the industry MPAA to flood the network with bogus files OR if they are real you won't be able to download them because of the way they've configured the client. This has been discussed in previous posts.

To test this,

Right now there are a significant number of people hosting content that has been produced by me on the gnutella network. you can use any of the following search queries to pull up listings for the content:

cbt mpg
cbt avi
cbt wmv

You should try to download one of the files. If you can then you can download videos / movies


Problem solved.


hope this helps.

Thanks to the contributors
 

Hello to everyone,

I'm a new user to LimeWire so I've spent the last few hours reading over these threads trying to solve some of my problems. I must say that the information that has been provided both directly and indirectly is simply FANTASTIC!!

David91: I don't think that you anticipated that the things you stated back on the 25th of May of 2003 would come to any great use but the web browser link you gave was terrific and I was able to balance things out in my file sharing.

NoKaOi: Mahalo and aloha, Thanks for posting your issues I learned so much from you and David91.

Joff: You're one of the few who actually will "read directions" first before proceeding so in my books that puts you in the "wise" category not the "ignorant" category. Good on you!!

I want to thank each individual for posting their thoughts here. Myself being a "newbie" I had no idea that I was actually hindering results for other users. Now I leave my connection on 24/7. Because of the various statements that have been posted I have now become committed as a registered user of LimeWire to provide the best upload source I can. And if I may use your statement 'stupididiot69er' "You get what you give (this goes for downloading too)" and may I add to that "uploading"--it's a two way street.

BTW--Thanks Lee for the hard work you have put into answering the problems that have arisen and maintaining patience.

WR

No Thank you
 

No, thank you White Raven. It's refreshing to know that there are still some some users who will take the time to actually read through the threads before posting. In fact it is even more rare that after doing so someone would drop a line to thank those that participated.

For that, I think that you deserve a big thanks and good luck.

ip address
 

K, i set up my port forwarding, did everything with my Windows firewall and everything else everyone suggested. I'm still lucky to get 2KB/s on downloads and about the same upload rate. I'm working off a T1 at school and usually can get about 350-400 KB/s (I'm no noob, I know the dif. between bits/bites). My sh*t is fast. I'm at school and the guy next door to me gets 60-70 KB/s downstream through his gnutella p2p program. I get excited when i break 5. Someone please help me out, I'm using Limewire 4.2.6 on XP Pro SP2 (It came pre-installed, f'n Dell). Couldn't find anything describing putting my ip address in LW, I'm far from an expert on that topic and I didnt know if changing my LAN settings would do the trick. Someone hook me up, I've been waiting a good 3 weeks to see Boondock Saints.

Thanks,
C

Speed Issues
 

According to everything you mentioned the only thing that sticks out to me is that if you have a T1 i.e. 1.544Mbps and your buddy is getting 480-560Kbps throughput which means he's using 31-36% of the available bandwidth. You didn't say how many people share that T1? Finally, you should try downloading any file that has lots of sources. Perhaps a file smaller than 50MB to see what type of performance you get. Also can you download any faster using the web?

I don't think it's a limewire problem.

Re: ip address
 

Do you know what client it is that your neighbour is using ?
It is not against the 'rules' here for you to mention a 'competitor client' if such is the case.

If he is also using LimeWire then there is the possibility that the problem is with your machine or installation...
If he is using another client, then that opens other arguments...

And, LeeWare has a very basic question re: download performance other than via the Gnutella Network...

-----
Hey ! Hi LeeWare... Long time no talkee !
I bet you meant 'lots' of sources instead of 'lost' :eek:

Corrections Made
 

That's exactly what I meant. Anyway, I made the corrections. Even though I haven't posted anything in a while. I still try to keep up on what's going on here. For a while now people have been contacting me directly with questions.

Hey, it's just three of us on the T1 so it shouldn't be a problem if one guy is using about a third of the bandwith right? The guy next door uses Limewire too and loves to rub his d/l speeds in my face just to be a dick lol. I have reinstalled Limewire about 5 times and I have the latest version installed. I'm on an administrative server at school, but we're in overflow housing so it's just a few guys after the staff leaves for the day around 4. It doesnt matter if i have a file with 40 or 400 sources, I get "waiting for busy host", "awaiting sources" or d/l's up to 5k, but most frequently 0. I'm on a Dell Dimension 4700 using an Intel Pro/100 VE Network Adapter to connect. My internet and email are really fast, but I've seen limewire break double digits in d/l speed 3 times in the last 2 months. I do have NAT, but I have no idea what to do about it.

You could try Force IP for a start: Force IP instructions & sample image
I presume you can't get access to your modem/routing equipment? Do you know the brand names & model numbers?
Have you configured your firewalls to allow both LW & Java full access: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/firewalls.shtml

"Awaiting Sources" is a result of using the Resume function. It is much more efficient & healthy to manually search for fresh/new sources. If you use Resume on most of your incomplete files (if you have many) it will result in your files queueing for 'much', much longer than normal.

Some hints on optimising LW: A well set-up LW can start to automatically continue its dwnlding after it's settled down perhaps 2 out of 3 times you open LW. Optimising LW & Maximising Uplds & Dwnlds A (1st post only) & also Part B which is even better & last & least are search & dwnld hints. The latter one I've been thinking about re-writing for some time. That's just for playing it safe. eg- I show all speeds & qualities.

Yeah I did that already. It's the same port that I had to allow through my firewall right? Am I supposed to set the IP to 127.0.0.1 or what my actual ip is? or the ip of my firewall?

hey,

let me know if you can straighten out this situation:

Hey,

I have a cable modem, and I just installed the newest version of Limewire. I have a 250 kbps upload bandwidth so what should I set my download and upload bandwidth to? I am running behind Windows SP2 firewall but i can turn that off and put on Norton firewall. Which should I use for the best download speed? Currently, my video downloads arent going any faster than 12 kbps. Music is about 60-80 range.

but listen to this,

When I decide to change from "cable/dsl" to "T1" my music downloads seem to faster than 100kbps and my videos about 25-40kbps. But thats only sometimes.

I also have a shared internet connection. I cannot get on the internet unless my other computer is turned on. We are connected by these Netgear Powerline USB Adapters XA601.

Please help me get the best out of Limewire before I decide to switch to a different program.

THE RESULTS OF MY SPEED TEST:

Your download speed : 2508636 bps, or 2449 kbps.
A 306.2 KB/sec transfer rate.
Your upload speed : 255395 bps, or 249 kbps


please help me get the best out of limewire.

thanks.

Simple Test
 

According to what you have indicated you are already able to download and I assume upload as well. Since your buddy is also using limewire and you guys are all sharing the same T1 circuit. Then why don't you try the following test and then post your results here.


#1 Create/Rename a file to something unique.
This file should be at least 5-10MB

Example: DataTx01.AVI and DataTx02.AVI

#2 One file should be located on your buddies computer and the other one on your computer.

#3 Connect to Gnutella using limewire and use the following search term to locate the files.

search = DataTx01.avi

or

search = avi 01 tx data

Basically, you want to search for the file that exists on the other computer. NOT the one located on your computer. This should result in an exact match.

#4 Download the file.

#5 Repeat steps 3-4 from other computer.

#6 Post the results of your test on the forum.

Basically, tell us what happened.

Just downloaded a large movie file from him - 708MB took about a half hour with speeds between 150 and 950 KB/s, averaging above 800. He downloaded a 9MB Mp3 from me and got about 300 KB/s. It probably would have gone faster, but it didnt have enough time to. Our network is configured for filesharing amongst clients, I'm not sure how this is going to give you any info...

Configuration
 

If you did the aforementioned using limewire without changing your configuration then it helps by telling me that the problem is not with limewire. However, if you performed the tests outside of limewire then it doesn't help to solve the problem.

Here's what I suspect based on what you've said before.

I think the problem is limited to something that has been discussed several times in this thread alone. That is, you cannot download faster than the person can send the data. Therefore if a person is connected using a modem and you have a T1 your downloads will be limited to that of the modem. Alternatively, if a person with a modem is attempting to download from you they will only be able to pull the data at a rate of 56Kb or less. Because limewire shows the speeds in bytes it will be 7KB or less.

Finally, if you are using a school network are you 100% sure they are not doing traffic-management?


Hope this helps.

just a little tip
 

So many people are wondering why they aren't getting any uploads. I'm here at just past midnight in my part of the world and am not getting any uploads, tons of 'transfer interrupted' which I assume is from the other end, i.e. not my fault.
If you're worried that your files aren't available, just look at the bottom left corner of your LimeWire screen, under 'Quality'.
It will say "Sharing XX files". If the number is zero, then something is wrong. But, if you, like, me, are sharing 837 files, then that means they are available. So don't worry, you're not a freeloader, it just means people aren't helping themselves to your files in particular.

Well, it seems that your assumption is wrong. Like you, I share tons of files and got tons of transfer interrupted. Never any uploads completed. I changed OS from XP to Win2003Server and now everything is fine. I have 5 computers, 4 of which are running xppro, none of them upload files. But of course, now this one does, using the new OS. Nothing else has changed as far as hardware, routers, antivirus, firewalls (both software and hardware). So, it must be the way Limewire works with the operating system (XP).

How do I force Ip adress
 

I'm using limewire with windows xp and a broadband connection. My ip address as a host comes up as 192 168 etc. How can i change this. thanks

Problems with LimeWire and XP
 

I run a P2P-CDN 20% of it runs on Windows XP. There are two things I can assure you of.


#1 There is no problem running limewire or getting it to upload on a properly configured XP machine.

#2 You are incorrect in your assumptions.

Re: How do I force Ip adress
 

Why do you want to change it? I would avoid changing things if you don't understand how the change will help you or if it's even necessary?

Leeware, then perhaps you can tell the rest of the community with this on-going problem what configuration changes are necessary. Every suggestion in this forum has resulted in no-change for others as well as myself. Changing OS does correct the problem. I tried changing to win2003server on one of the other systems running xppro and sure enough, it started uploading files. So, I guess what I'm saying is:

If you are sharing files, and no one is uploading from you, you have a problem, not that they don't want your files but the problem is on your end not theirs. Obviously, it shows them requesting files from you and their trasnfer gets interrupted after 3-5 seconds. So they want your files, but your OS is interrupting the transfer.

Now, Leeware, would you be so kind to tell us what configuration would correct this?