Start with the Basics There are several things you can do to mitigate problem with your online activities. Especially as it relates to P2P. Let me share a few suggestions. #1 Are you sharing from an environment where you don't control the resources? That is, at a school or from work or an ISP that is not P2P friendly. The reason I listed this one first is I've had people to contact me with problem downloading and uploading files. That ended up being a problem where some upstream packet shaping application or hardware was in place to discourage such activities. Therefore, it would be helpful for everyone on this board and elseware to make sure that this is not the case before complaining that the application does not work. #2 Understand your setup. That is, are you using NAT? i.e. your ip address is 192.168.x.x or 172.16.x.x or 10.x.x.x. Are you Firewalled? That is using XP or another third part Firewall products? Are you directly connected to the Internet? Here's another thing that I've seen that causes a lot of problems for inexperienced users. If you are using NAT then you DO NOT NEED ADDITIONAL FIREWALLS. Unless of course you wish to block outbound request. Some users feel like they are better protected if they on top of NAT use the XP firewall + 2 or three third party firewalls. Trust me this is an overly complicated configuration with no real benefits. Here are my suggestions if you are having problems getting your files uploaded into the network. #1 Evaluate your situation and make adjustments accordingly. Simplify your configuration by removing unnecessary firewalls. #2 I know that for a fact LimeWire works just fine in a NATed environment. #3 If and only if you are directly connected to the Internet and are using Windows XP ICF. There are two ways to configure it so that it works correctly with limewire. 3a) When you start limewire the system will prompt you to whether you want to allow the program or not. If you select the option to allow then it creates an exception to allow the program. Everything including uploads should work fine with this configuration. 3b) The other way is to go into the firewall settings in XP and create two entries. 3b1) LimeWire TCP Server 6346 3b2) LimeWire UDP Server 6346 Everything should work fine with this configuration. Finally, #4 verify your LimeWire configuration that is, open limewire go into /tools/options/uploads/slots make sure the Uploads Per Person Value is greater than 0. This is a leecher configuration that keeps people from uploading files from you. Hope this helps. |
User Education Interdiction Companies -- I mentioned this several times in this thread however, I sometimes get the feeling that people have no idea what I'm talking about. So, once again. There are companies who are paid to inject bogus popular movie files on P2P networks. These companies make it nearly impossible to ever successfully download a movie from their servers. The point of this is to discourage users from using P2P as a way to getting copyrighted movie content. Thus judging by your post their efforts are relatively effective. |
Obtaining LimeWire Pro If you purchased LimeWire Pro then you should have link to the purchased product. The link is good for six months. I am also sure you could contact the folks at LimeWire to help you out. |
Quote:
LeeWare, thank you for the assurance that I am doing everything possible to make sure that people can get my files. Perhaps I should have mentioned in my previous post that I do have successful uploads, there are just very few of them. BTW, I have a 4 year old Gateway running Windows ME. I have no problems with LimeWire. Downloading the newest Java (1.4 I think?) seemed to really help. |
Hi joyrider, I was wondering if you can do a small test for us after LW has been running for perhaps 20 to 30 mins: Bug Report instructions & sample image Is your result True/False? If it's true then nothing to worry about. If it's false, then there may be something partially blocking others from uplding from you. It may be an internal firewall or it may be a built in NAT firewall inside your modem or router or both. In that case you'd need to configure your firewalls to give LW full access or do what's known as port forwarding to allow port 6346 to be open for others. |
Please don't take my comment about "assumption" wrong. I meant no disrespect. It is very frustrating for I have been working on this problem for over four months. Many of the good people on this forum have exhausted a lot of time trying to resolve it with me, including Leeware. I did ask for support from Limwire and their response was that there was only one of them on the support line and would be of no help with this issue. As I mentioned before, every suggestion on this forum has been followed and verified. Extreme measures have been taken to completely isolate the system to run direct with the cable company (no firewalls, no antivirus, no ICF, etc.) and multiple systems ( I have 5). The cable company assures me they are not blocking in any way. Especially since I am paying a premium for a premium line. Changing the operating system alone will cause it to work fine. Even with the exact same configuration. Building a new XPPRO system from scratch with the only additional software are those required to run Limewire still results in failure. Version 4.07(?) or close to it, worked fine on XPPRO for me. I upgraded to 4.18(?) and the problem started. Reverting back to the first version didn't correct the problem. I don't know what else to say. I switched all five systems to Win2003Server now which is what I really needed to do anyway (despite Limewire) so I am not experiencing the problem anymore. But I do feel for those who are going thru what I did. |
bug report test Received incoming this session=true. BTW I leave LW on all the time (I have a cable connection). No problems, then, eh, mate? This was the first time I've looked at the sample bug report. Fascinating. It also showed I am not acting as an ultrapeer, which I do not have that disabled in options. Is cable not fast enough? I looked in FAQ and userguide. Just curious, if you could direct me to more info I would appreciate it. Thanks again guys for all your very useful information. |
Upload Statistics My content distribution network is run on limewire. I took a sample of my upload traffic and found the following results. Out of 35,000 uploads only 50% end in success the rest fail. 50% or 17,500 are interrupted about 300 or 2.6% simply stall. I don't know what you success / failure rate is? However, it would be helpful to know how your node is performing. |
Now that I have switched to Win2003Server, I let Limewire run all night last night and here are the results. I share 3021 files. I had 489 upload requests. I had 487 completed requests. 2 Transfers interrupted. On the old WinXPPRO system I usually had 99.5% transfer interrupted. Out of 500 upload requests, maybe 1 or two would complete. They were both in my immediate IP addr range. (yyy.yyy.nnn.nnn) Where the y's are the same numbers as my IP addr. However, I don't think I was the only one uploading to them. |
I have two questions: 1) My ipaddress with 'ipconfig' is always the same, but I've been led to understant it is not an address that can be accessed. Does the ip address from 'whatismyip' remain the same all the time when you are on the internet via a host isp? I use DSL with the local phone company, and if I force the ipaddress, I want to know that it is a constant. 2) I will attempt to find the answer to this one myself, but just in case I remain too dumb, how do I force the ipaddress? Thanks for any help. Dev |
Obsession with Forced IP addresses If you are using NAT meaning your IP address is 192.168.x.x or 10.x.x.x. and don't have any kinds of special firewalls installed people should be able to download from you without any problems. You haven't indicated why you feel you need to force your ip address. I assume that the ip shown in whatsmyip.org is different from the one you see when you do an ipconfig. If you are not using a static ip address option with your isp then the IP you see on whatsmyip.org will in all likely-hood change if you reboot your equipment. |
If dev is using NAT & a dynamic ip, I wonder what their incoming report says on the bug report: dev do this test: Bug Report instructions & sample image If it's True then nothing to worry about in that regard. LeeWare are you sure about the NAT! I'm aware you posted a thread about NAT some time ago. But to my understanding of it (which is limited), then it will block out all but the 'legal' ports. For p2p, high-end games & video conferencing, multiple ports would need to be opened (port forwarding.) Otherwise they would appear as firewalled to other p2p users. That's where the force ip comes into play. I'd like a better understanding of this issue myself. Why do you think your upld success has hit a 50% snag? Firewalls/NAT, etc. not properly configured, etc.? |
Regarding NAT Let me take a moment to clear a bit of confusion. Earlier in this thread I mentioned that in order to improve your search and download success you should try to make sure you have a good and open connection to the network. I made several recommendations about how you might go about doing this. Obviously, these statements were made at a time when firewalled users presented a big problem for the network in fact, it was nearly impossible to download from them or get files uploaded when you were also firewalled. There have been many new developments and features added to limewire to improve this situation. So here's what I know for a fact. If people setup limewire in the way that I had recommended to do so in the past they would effectively filter out all of the firewalled sources when doing searches. This was a configuration which lead to some long running debates regarding the practice. However, it would eliminate the possibility of you trying to download from a firewalled users. But let's assume that most users today are either firewalled or NATed. As far as limewire is concerned they are all firewalled. I know for a fact that Firewalled to Firewalled transfers work however for a variety of reasons they also have a high failure rate for example. If I normally upload 1000 files in one hour when not firewalled. If I run all of my nodes as VPS (Virtual Private Servers) then the number drops to something like 70-100 uploads. I assume that this is because I don't show up in results where people are filtering out addresses like 172.16.x.x, 10.x.x.x and 192.168.x.x Hope this helps. |
I have seen something around a 1% successful upload rate. Right now I have five people attempting to upload. One is at 14 kbs the others are sitting there at 0. I have both upload and download bandwidth at 'unlimited' to see if that made any difference. Should I reduce the download bandwidth somewhat, since I have no trouble downloading? Or does that make any difference? What on earth is causing people so much trouble to upload from me? When looking at my files, I see (in the x/y column), 1/1..., 9/1..., etc. So there are many attempted downloads but hardly any successful ones. The person who was uploading was up to 63% and just quit. Any further advice?? I know there are no firewalls, NAT, etc. Oh, and Cobra, sorry I got miffed about the 'assumption' thing. I'm still new to this. Thanks for your help. |
Questions Most of my uploads have resulted in a "transfer interupted" alarm, only 2 uploads have been sucessfull.(downloads are working fine). In the past, no one had problems uploading off my computer. I recently updated and began using limewire again when I noticed most uploads were failing.( I have Norton Internet security firewall, but it didn't seem to be a problem before. Maybe Norton updates have created one?) The limewire "direct connect" says my ip address is......... 68.103.144.249:6348 . Should I attempt to force this address? My default lime wire "listen port" was 6346. I changed it to 6348 to match the limewire "direct connect" numbers. Was this correct? Or should the "listen port" number be different than the "dirert connect" number. Feedback will be appreciated as this issue has me confused. Thank you. |
Statistics Quote:
|
Re: Questions Quote:
|
The 9/1... for example: The 1 literally has dots after it, I assumed this meant it was over 100, which would mean I had 9 successful uploads out of over 100 attempts. Is that correct? Sorry to keep dragging this on, by the |
Cobra8007 glad to hear you sorted out your issues. I saw in an earlier thread of yours about the isp you use. I was wondering if you'd heard about THIS issue? |
Cox Communications Yes, as I had posted earlier in this thread and others. Cox says that they do not block P2P traffic and this was confirmed by switching OS to win2003server. It worked fine then. I pay Cox for a commercial cable line which does not block anything. It is used for servers, etc. They do block port 80 requests on residential to prevent servers being run on residential lines though. This is true for this area (Oklahoma City). |
As a Linewire newbie this info was truly a gawdsend! thanks for taking the time. ;) |
Sorry Limewire! duh!!!! |
downloads i have tried your method for getting faster downloads but doesn't seem to make any difference, but the problem that i have is that i only seem to download from no more than 8 users, how can i rectify this ??? system: amd athlon 64 3400+ win XP Pro sp2 1 gig ddr 400 hdd latest java limewire 4.2.6 pro dsl 2mb connection |
i have tried your method for getting faster downloads but doesn't seem to make any difference, but the problem that i have is that i only seem to download from no more than 8 users, how can i rectify this ??? Broxibear, I'd like to know the answer to that one. Actually, I'd like to have even 1 user, as opposed to none. Most of the time I have only 'awaiting sources. I'd like to have the machine you'r running, too. Seems like a really nice one. As to the memory, do you think a gig adds much to the performance as compared to 412Mb? Dev |
Broxibear, I'd like to know the answer to that one. Actually, I'd like to have even 1 user, as opposed to none. Most of the time I have only 'awaiting sources. I'd like to have the machine you'r running, too. Seems like a really nice one. As to the memory, do you think a gig adds much to the performance as compared to 412Mb? Dev [/B][/QUOTE] heel yeah, the best thing is that i can run Limewire, have a movie playing with WMP10 + My System running as well as various other bits & Bobs and there's still plenty frre mem left to go around, hope u understand wot i mean by this !!! and also soz to hear that ur having worse connections than me as well. |
ip test ip test |
wot do u mean with IP test ??? |
you're right people don't read. i use an amd athlon 64 3000+ 80 gig hd 512m of ram xp2 sp2 a d-link di-604 router and charter cable modem. java 1.5 disabled sp firewall and use mcafee and the one in the router. this is a home net. when i installed lw 4.2.6 had lousy downloads and no uploads. read the faq amd many threads in the forum. what i did after reading all this was to go into the router and give myself a stattic ip changed to port 8346 to keep from conflicting with the other 2 computers on my net. opened up the firewall for that port. then when into xp control panel internet connect properties local area connect tcp/ip properties. and set my static ip. disabled al tcp/ip filtering. enabled net bios over tcp/ip set my static ip in the advanced settings. in connection status manually configured my static ip. in lw i channged to port 8346 forced it and throttled back some on upload bandwidth. then i told mcafee that lw had full access. now people can upload off me. my downloads sometimes smoke and sometimes they crawl. depends on who i hook to i guess. my one problem is that sometimes when i am hooked to 3 or 4 hosts it still downloads at less than 1kpbs. then i can hook to 1 host and get 75kpbs once i get that whipped i'll be a happy camper. overall pretty nice. my point is that if you do your homework and configure all the elements of the puzzle correctly you can make it work. don't just give up after a little while. i'm not a computer geek, just someone who doesn't like to be beat by a machine |
Not sure if that's really meant for me. I feel a confusion of identity. I live in Texas and have never done any fly fishing, and know little to nothing about it. I love salewater fishing, however. Don't get to do it much lately, cause we now live about a 100 miles from the coast. Gonna move to Freeport, someday, and resume. Say, I can't find the route to pick an icon, anymore. I did when I first got on to this thing, but now all I see are the smileys, and I don't particularly want them. I like yours, and thought maybe you could give me a hint as to how you do it. Thanks, Dev |
Hi everyone I have big problem. However I download a music video or movies, I can't seem to download any higher than 20 KB per sec even from cable user and I'm using PRO Verison. This is like that all the time and all of people I asked never have this problem even though my cable might be 1/2 time better than their own. I'm not sure if the first page apply to me or I'm just simple confused so I will explain what I have, etc. I use road runner cable which as of now allow 5 Mbps per sec and a little bit higher than 300 upload. This is very very fast and whatever I play video games online, I always have the lowest ping out of everyone and I could easily download 140 MB file in under 4 mins and 30 sec when downloading from internet or any sever except for peer to peer network. So clearly there must be something wrong. I use router which I connect to 2 computer. The wireless I use is D-Link. It is PCI card. I had a game that I couldn't host so I try to add IP and Port for that game in D-Link website (website with something like 192.165.1.1) and it work perfectly. So I was wondering if I need to add IP and Port in D-Link website for Limewire? If so, Please PLEASE tell me how to do it step by step. Thanks a LOT!!! |
I hope someone can help you. You are way over my head, so I'll just watch. Maybe I'lll learn something. |
Hi deafguy Yes you probably will need to forward a port for your D-Link. Although the new version of LW has UPnP which, if your device uses that technology will overcome the issue. However, I use a D-Link & continue to manually forward a port with good results. As you're aware with a lot of net games & also video conferencing, etc. you need to open ports. For LW you need to open Port 6346 Without knowing your model the best I can do is direct you to http://www.portforward.com/routers.htm & D-Link is listed at the top of the page. Also see this: Force IP instructions & sample image Remember you can only forward port 6346 for one computer so any others that use LW would need to have a separate port no. port forwarded (eg: 6348/6342) Some other hints (except for this thread): A well set-up LW can start to automatically continue its dwnlding after it's settled down perhaps 2 out of 3 times you open LW. Optimising Uplds & downlds & last & least are search & dwnld hints. The latter one I've been thinking about re-writing for some time. That's just for playing it safe. eg- I show all speeds & qualities. eg: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...028#post116028 |
I use DWL-520 D-Link wireless PCI. So please tell me what to do step by step to add IP and Port and what to do in opitions in Limewire. And what about adding IP in D-Link website for IP?? Or just add port only?? This is what it look like when I need to do Port Forwarding. Local IP Adr/ Start Port/ End Port/ Protocol Enabled Tell me what to add in there and I just add 6346 in Limewire, force ip and that's it? If the information you will give to me cannot be viewed by public, please send me a private message. |
leeware need help! read your post, spoke with lord of the rings earlier and read murasame's posts. Basically i've got a 2mb connection and am dling at crappy speeds. I have a router with a built in firewall and mcaffee firewall but have opened up ports on both for limewire. I'm running XP on a p3 700 laptop with 256 ram i'll post u my bug report so u can see my settings what should I change? my speed is 288/2278 kbps Current thread: AWT-EventQueue-0 Active Threads: 72 Uptime: 1:28:02 Is Connected: true Number of Ultrapeer -> Ultrapeer Connections: 25 Number of Ultrapeer -> Leaf Connections: 1 Number of Leaf -> Ultrapeer Connections: 0 Number of Old Connections: 0 Acting as Ultrapeer: true Acting as Shielded Leaf: false Number of Active Uploads: 0 Number of Queued Uploads: 0 Number of Active Managed Downloads: 0 Number of Active HTTP Downloaders: 0 Number of Waiting Downloads: 0 Received incoming this session: true Number of Shared Files: 315 Guess Capable: false Received Solicited UDP: true SIMPP version: 7 Port Stable: true FWT Capable: true Last Reported Port: 18372 External Port: 6346 IP Pongs Received: 47 -- listing threads -- JmDNS.RecordReaper: 1 ConnectionWatchdog: 1 QueryDispatcher: 1 IncommingConnectionThread: 1 QueryUnicaster: 1 Thread-5: 1 Java2D Disposer: 1 TimerQueue: 1 UDPService-Receiver: 1 MulticastService: 1 Acceptor: 1 AWT-Windows: 1 AWT-Shutdown: 1 AWT-EventQueue-0: 1 MessageLoopingThread: 26 Timer-0: 1 QRPPropagator: 1 OutputRunner: 26 DestroyJavaVM: 1 DaapServerThread: 1 HTTPAcceptor: 1 JmDNS.SocketListener: 1 -- listing properties -- FILTER_HASH_QUERIES=true APP_HEIGHT=746 FRACTIONAL_UPTIME=0.040011894 LAST_EXPIRE_TIME=1109092301328 SESSIONS=4 INCOMPLETE_PURGE_TIME=3 UPLOADS_PER_PERSON=2 RUN_ONCE=true CLIENT_ID=6F06D32F197BBFD5CEC1AF590E8A9300 FORCE_IP_ADDRESS=true LAST_SHUTDOWN_TIME=1109244639575 FREELOADER_FILES=300 EVER_ACCEPTED_INCOMING=true EVER_SUPERNODE_CAPABLE=true MINIMUM_SEARCH_QUALITY=3 FREELOADER_ALLOWED=10 MAX_UPLOAD_BYTES_PER_SEC=29 TOTAL_UPTIME=32867 AVERAGE_UPTIME=8216 UNSET_FIREWALLED_FROM_CONNECTBACK=true RUN_ON_STARTUP=false APP_WIDTH=1032 HARD_MAX_UPLOADS=3 INSTALLED=true MAX_SIM_DOWNLOAD=15 LAST_GWEBCACHE_FETCH_TIME=1109092373832 CONNECTION_SPEED=350 WINDOW_Y=-4 BLACK_LISTED_IP_ADDRESSES=192.168.*.*;10.*.*.* MAX_DOWNLOAD_BYTES_PER_SEC=150 WINDOW_X=-4 |
First, you information looks fine. I didn't study in detail but a simple glance says to me at least that everything is okay. I assume that you realize that your download speed is limited by the upload speed of the other end? This has been said over and over gain in this thread. Let me give you a simple example. Me 6Mbps / Down < = In OtherPeers 2Mbps / Down = > in 768Kbps /Up Out = > 256Kbps /Up <= out Because Most P2P programs show the transfer speeds in KiloBYTES and not Kilobits you have to do the conversion. Me 6Mbit / 8 = 750KB - 20% for overhead = 600KB 768Kbit /8 = 96KB - 20% for overhead = 76.8KB Therefore, your maximum upload and download speeds as indicated by limewire will be 600KB in and 76.8KB out. let's make the same calculations for the other side. Otherpeers 2Mbit/ 8 = 250KB - 20% for overhead = 200KB 256Kbit / 8 = 32KB - 20% for overhead = 25.6KB So, 25.6KB is the maximum this host would be able to send data to anyone. However, there's another factor Let's say that the other peer has his settings set to: 3 upload slots and 5 files per user. Let say that all slots are full and there are three people uploading from this user 25.6KB / 3 = 8.5KB or less per user is allocated. That's it! Now imagine the same situation where the person only have 128Kbps and they have their settings set to limit their upload bandwidth to 25% of their upload capacity Here's the math: 128Kbit / 8 = 16KB - 20% for overhead = 12.8KB /3 users = 4.26KB per user soft limit set to 25% of upload capacity (0.25 * 4.26KB) = 1KB per user. Unless there's something about your situation that makes you beleive that this is not the case. #1 you have not stated that here and #2 this is usually the problem and there's nothing you can do about it. Hope this helps. |
yea i know how upload speed is much less than dl speed and ur limited to speed of other people but i figured if your downloading very popular files with many sources you should have no problems. It seems that with even very popular files i download them ok for a little while but then after a while it goes to 0 it pretty much always happens and is very frustrating. Is limewire the best peer to peer software? I seemed to do ok with kazaa before. Other problem is I have a dynamic IP and have had to forward ports and set my ip address to that of my router as it changes all the time. how can i make it so people can download off me? |
i also know about dividing your actual speed by 8 to figure out what it is in kb |
Dare I but in here but IF you are going to forward any ports you MUST have a static IP. There's generally instructions on how to do this somewhere such as Support for your modem or PortForward.com. You'd also need to forward a separate port for each computer linked (eg: Comp. A: port 6346, Comp. B: port 6342, etc.) If your modem/router is able to use UPnP technology then port forwarding may not be necessary. Set the device up to use UPnP & likewise within LW: Tools>Options>Advanced>Firewalls set for using UPnP. But only UPnP capable devices can use this. |
push ip test push ip test how do i know if it works |
Re: push ip test Quote:
/tools/statistics/advanced (enable here) /upload/general firewall to firewall connection statistics. If you want to know about your results (when you are downloading from someone else). sample location /upload/ select the stats just above general. |
Re: push ip test When I download files off of limewire they have like 1-3 hosts like downloading from 2 hosts,but the speed is okb!>???? Why is that? <center><embed src="http://www.videogamedc.com/rejoice2.swf" pluginspage="http://www.macromedia.com/shockwave/download/" width="495" height="100" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" quality="high"></embed> |
Re: Re: push ip test |
Re: Re: Re: push ip test I was the private user, anyway When I download files off of limewire they have like 1-3 hosts like downloading from 2 hosts,but the speed is okb!>???? Why is that? |
Perhaps it's something wrong with the hosts you are trying to download from. If you have the latest version of limewire you can use the direct connection option on the search tab to connect to one of my hosts. I recommend you download one of the smaller files as a test. chi08.leeware.com. This host should be able to deliver 75K - 100K throughput. Hope this helps. |
One man said he could get only 20 kb, when downloading, but I can only get usually 2 or 1 kb. However, on downloads just from somewhere on the internet, I can get like 12 kb. I think that that last long post by Leeware explained it, but I want to make sure I'm getting the max out of it. Thanks |
hey Lee, I would like to ask, i previously set both my download and upload bandwith as unlimited.however,i want to limit the upload bandwith but still keep the download bandwith as unlimited.if i do this,would my download rate be slower? thanks alot. Lawrence |
Throttling Upload No. |
I had some real sucess with setting up my ip to router for limewire and now are able to download at much faster speed. However, sometimes when I am downloading from 6 users for a single files, it can never reach certain amount of speed. My guess is that I am not downloading from good connection users. But here's thing problem, said a file have 200 users avaviable, well I can never download any more than six users. So how do I increase the number of users I download from? because I know if I could just at least download from 10 users, my downloading speed will go off the roof. Can anyone help me with that? |
In LW tools>options>downloads>Maximum Downloads ---- try setting this at 40-50. That should allow you to conncet to more hosts. It did for me. You may have to tinker with it a bit to find out what is best for your setup. Don't forget to click apply then okay, for the changes to take effect. Have a good evening. |
Clarifications The settings you recommended he change would not increase the number of "sources" he's able to download from for a particular file. This setting controls the number of files you can download at any given time. For example, If I set the number to 1 and I select from the search results 20 files to download. One will begin to download from all of the available sources and the rest will be queued until the file finishes downloading. In other words, they will download one at a time. This feature is useful if you are getting good speeds for each of the files and you don't want to your other downloads to cut into those speeds. Hope this helps. |
All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:24 PM. |
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0 ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2020 Gnutella Forums.
All Rights Reserved.